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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:17 am 
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Would be, however A1 needs to stay put and ride out this financial crisis because it is in deep shit already as it is.

Yeah, A1 is shit anyway, they had what, 17 cars at Zandvoort? Half the drivers are amateur anyway.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:38 am 
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Didn't the minister of something during the podium ceremony said that it was sure they'll have a race next year and beyond?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:20 pm 
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Minister Of BS I think it was.

The first casualty, probably a bigger loss than the IndyCars to be honest.

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/200 ... -news.html
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Major sponsor says Indy dead
Mike Bruce

October 24th, 2008

INDY on the Gold Coast is dead, according to one of its major sponsors. Bartercard executive chairman Wayne Sharpe yesterday revealed to The Bulletin the Indy Racing League had already decided not to return to the Gold Coast next year.

As a result he has withdrawn more than $1 million in sponsorship for 2009.

What this means is that not only has the event lost a major sponsor, but it makes the 2008 Miss Indy competition the last, said Mr Sharpe, who has been told next year's event would feature V8s only.

"Basically next year's event will be a 'Bathurst on the Gold Coast," said Mr Sharpe. "The reality is they have taken the race off next year's series, despite the rubbish that's been spun here recently.

"We won't be back next year and are already planning for something else, probably in Europe and probably around the (Formula One) Grand Prix in Monaco."

He said race organisers and state politicians knew as much, but had been at pains to avoid delivering bad news before the 2008 event.

The Monaco-based businessman whose company has an annual global turnover of almost $2 billion, said the public had been subjected to a farcical charade by local race organisers and the State Government who would have announced Indy's 2009 involvement by now if there were any chance of the international series returning here.

"They've (politicians and Indy organisers) been trying to avoid any controversy during the event," said Mr Sharpe, a one-time naming rights sponsor of the race.

"I have put pressure on these guys to tell us exactly whether it's a goer and they won't do it until after the event.

"If you were running this event you'd want to be announcing the details of next year's event at the race, not after it.

"Every other year they've announced it before or during the race -- that's living proof the (2009) race is dead."

Mr Sharpe, whose company has been involved with Indy since it began in 1991, said the Surfers Paradise race held little interest for US sponsors and that coming to Australia was simply too costly for the race teams.

"Their (US) market is so huge and the money is so huge, that the cost of shipping people around the world is so large, they (IRL) have made a commercial decision based around their American race fans," said Mr Sharpe.

The IRL's commercial division president Terry Angstadt yesterday said that in its newly-merged incarnation, the IRL was not seeking greater international exposure.

"We are US-based series that also races internationally -- are we looking for lots of international expansion? No we're not," said Mr Angstadt.

"We think there will be a day where we can expand internationally but it's just probably not in (20)09 or (20)10."

Costs were also a large factor for the IRL, he said.

"Costs are a big consideration. It has to make sense for the drivers, the teams, the promoters, the league -- everybody," he said.

He said the IRL still preferred its late September or March dates so as to avoid any clash with the NFL (American football) season, but had three alternative dates to the Gold Coast's preferred late October date.

Indy chairman Terry Mackenroth, who has remained tight-lipped for months about the future of Indy on the Gold Coast, said a 'binding contract' would be signed within 14 days of the event, but denied the State Government was negotiating with an alternative open-wheel series.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:35 pm 
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Oh well, all good things come to an end. Hopefully another major internation open wheel series will pick up the bits over the next couple of years because I don't believe it could continue with the V8's alone unless they find a serious sponsor.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:49 pm 
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Personally thought it was quite a good race, some awesome battles through the field and a nice pressure finish. But thats just me and my positive outlook I suppose :(


I think there was a sum total of 2 overtakes for the whole race.

tbh it was more interesting than any Champ Car races at Surfers in the last 6 or 7 years.


Yeah, the 2003 CART Surfers race was so shitty.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:54 pm 
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Wow 1 decent race!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:58 pm 
No more Miss Indy. Now what am I going to take photos of :(

Its too costly my arse. Haven't they seen the current exchange rate? :lol: :lol:

2000 was pretty entertaining, as was 01, 02 start and the first 10 laps, 03 and 04.

@ Paxton. The event itself is confirmed for the next 5 years. Its just IRL haven't signed as one of the competing series there.


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DTM organisers are probably writing a love letter to the Surfers organisers right now.


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DTM would really kill off Surfers.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:14 pm 
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DTM going to Surfers is like BTCC going to Road America. It might be a good race but it's also a long way away from where the championship is based so making it quite pointless.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:15 pm 
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that won't stop them as long as they can increase the size of their virtual penis


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The final round of the DTM championship is again scheduled for the same weekend as the date the V8s have for Surfers, so they'd have to be a calendar shuffle for it to occur, and it won't be happening at the V8 end.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:22 pm 
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Yeaa, if Indycar couldn't get them to move their date then DTM sure as heck couldn't and I don't really see DTM moving Hockenheim either.


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IndyCar would be stupid to lose the australian race. So probably they will.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:50 pm 
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Wow 1 decent race!


If we're going to set the bar at decent, then you might as well throw in 2004-2006. 2003 was legendary. 2006 was very good too.


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A1GP would be awesome at Surfers Paradise, that would be the best substitute if the IRL isn't coming back


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:29 pm 
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Green Prix in Surfers! Woooo


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:33 pm 
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Truck race in Surfers tbh.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:33 pm 
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Come on Tony, prove that you are the biggest moron in AOWR history!!! :x


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Nope the CART owners already did that by going bankrupt...


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