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| Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
5 more laps is a long time on these tyres... |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Plato past but Turk takes him right back |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Plato bashes Turk out the way. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Smith wins |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Meh. Didn't see race 1 or 2, but judging by race 3 and the comments from earlier I'd say BTCC works better on the shorter layout... |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Yeaa because the longer circuit takes out the best overtaking spot. |
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| Author: | Gael [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Plato isn't going to keep that position, is he, or is that one of the deals that everyone but Plato would get penalized for? |
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| Author: | James B [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Schumifan wrote: Meh. Didn't see race 1 or 2, but judging by race 3 and the comments from earlier I'd say BTCC works better on the shorter layout... Yeah, with the Island circuit you've got 2 big breaking points (Island and Lodge) which act as overtaking spots and prevent the cars from spreading out. The banked hairpin and first chicane on the International circuit aren't enough themselves and spread the cars out It's like Imola for F1 - undoubtedly a great circuit in the past, but too many chicanes and not enough overtaking spots to produce good racing. I'd be surprised if we saw the International layout used again for a while |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
James B wrote: Schumifan wrote: Meh. Didn't see race 1 or 2, but judging by race 3 and the comments from earlier I'd say BTCC works better on the shorter layout... Yeah, with the Island circuit you've got 2 big breaking points (Island and Lodge) which act as overtaking spots and prevent the cars from spreading out. The banked hairpin and first chicane on the International circuit aren't enough themselves and spread the cars out First chicane in particular is crap. Horrible, fiddly little thing. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Why not stream it now you dumb fucks! |
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| Author: | pimmy [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Schumifan wrote: James B wrote: Schumifan wrote: Meh. Didn't see race 1 or 2, but judging by race 3 and the comments from earlier I'd say BTCC works better on the shorter layout... Yeah, with the Island circuit you've got 2 big breaking points (Island and Lodge) which act as overtaking spots and prevent the cars from spreading out. The banked hairpin and first chicane on the International circuit aren't enough themselves and spread the cars out First chicane in particular is crap. Horrible, fiddly little thing. It was good when it was the only chicane, but now that we have Hizzy's, there's no need for it anymore. It's not very often that you have BTCC, WTCC & F1 on the same weekend and BTCC ends up being the least entertaining. They'll probably move back to the Island layout next year. |
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| Author: | pimmy [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
A bit of trivia: Árón Smith's win today was the first win for a Volkswagen since John Morris won the season opener at Mallory Park in 1981. EDIT: Plato has been penalised for his move on Turkington. |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Well those races happened. I'm not sure why racing on the full circuit was worse than the Island configuration. There's only a small difference and on the shorter circuit drivers tend to defend hard going into the hairpin (I've mentioned this in past year's) lap after lap, and the only way a pass happens is when the attacking driver does what Plato did to Turks in race 3. And that said, TOCA / Gow normally let's that kind of thing go on the Island circuit but put Plato back behind Turkington after race 3. How odd. |
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| Author: | Eddington mains [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Funcup raced on Fosters in April and it seemed to be a much better, livelier race than when they use the full configuration.. Perhaps it's because the cars get less strung out? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Will very likely revert back next year. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114385 Though the fact Palmer is looking at track changes is rather worrying. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
Yeah, well, Palmer was also intending to turn GHB into a hairpin. I would be amazed if he had permission to touch 90% of the circuit seeing as it's mostly surrounded by a wood and a lake. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
No doubt he'll name a corner after himself again. |
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| Author: | kals [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
A hairpin called "Palmer's Penis"... unattractive, unnecessary, unwanted, lacks creativity and creates no opportunities. |
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| Author: | bigears [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
kals wrote: A hairpin called "Palmer's Penis"... unattractive, unnecessary, unwanted, lacks creativity and creates no opportunities. So the hairpin got to be short and stumpy rather than the hairpin at the old Avus circuit for example.... |
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| Author: | kals [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BTCC Rd.4 @ Oulton Park 7th/8th June 2014 |
bigears wrote: kals wrote: A hairpin called "Palmer's Penis"... unattractive, unnecessary, unwanted, lacks creativity and creates no opportunities. So the hairpin got to be short and stumpy rather than the hairpin at the old Avus circuit for example.... Well if Palmer's plan at Brands is anything to go by... 
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