TBK-Light.com
https://www.tbk-light.com/phpBB3/

Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
https://www.tbk-light.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=9118		 Page 13 of 14
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
The usual NASCAR brown nosing includes claiming fake debris cautions are for the safety of the drivers.
Author:  Andre [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
I said this a few times on Twitter, but I DID see the debris that caused the lap 199 caution. If I had PVR, I'd rewind that shit, take a screenshot and show it here, but I don't. :(

I saw it from the wall-mounted camera coming out of turn 4, barely in the groove (but it was definitely in a spot it could get hit), shiny and silver, and pointy-looking. I guess we'll just have to wait until NASCAR posts the race to YouTube for me to see it again.

As for the caution when Kenseth was leading, I'm not so sure - I believe they said it ended up on Allmendinger's grill, but if that's the case, isn't the debris is no longer a problem? They had engine issues all day anyway, so worst case scenario, they overheat and blow up and cause a caution a little bit later on. Not sure if the yellow was warranted there, but I would say it certainly was on lap 199.
Author:  Mattzel89 [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Way out of the groove though. Pretty sure they would have stayed green if it would have been anyone else in the lead.

Image

Image
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
But this is the series that'll bring out the caution for a bit of tape on the apron.
Author:  ChrisTRD [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
They certainly didn't need to call the caution with 1.5 laps to go. It's just funny they thew the caution then. Why not throw it after Kurt took the white flag? Why that exact moment? Just seems fishy.
Author:  Andre [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Kurt is evidently already at Kevin's level in terms of performance, and it's just a matter of time before he wins one. Not sure how it would benefit NASCAR to "delay" him winning so soon after his return, VS. him winning next week (which could very well happen)... so, if it happens next week while he's leading, I agree, it's fishy. If it happens anywhere down the road again when he's leading, it's fishy. I'm not convinced about yesterday, however.
Author:  Gael [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
I saw the debris on that caution with 2 to go, it's quite possible it'd be in the groove, since people were running on the apron in 3/4.

Obviously biased, but I was more annoyed with the caution when Kenseth was leading, which we never saw.. as it was leading up to a possibly interesting fuel mileage finish, with 2 obviously faster cars behind him.. only to break an axle leaving the pits.
Author:  Andre [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Yeah, I enjoy fuel mileage races as well, and was bummed out about that yellow for sure. They did show the debris on Allmendinger's grill and said that was the cause for the yellow, but like I say, if he picked it up, wouldn't it be a non-issue at that point?

I certainly agree that that particular caution was weird.
Author:  ChrisTRD [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
It could have been picked up by AJ after the caution flew. But I get what you're saying.
Author:  Andre [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
I suppose, yeah. In the shot they showed, AJ was bouncing down that backstretch quite a bit, which doesn't happen at pace speeds... he could have been slowing down for the yellow I guess, but he was still going at a pretty good clip when they showed the debris on his nose.
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Wasn't that the second caution Dinger ended up with debris on his car or did I miss that it happened a second time?

Oh and apparently the overnight rating was 2.8, which is down from 4.0 last year.
Author:  cArmAkAze [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Never been so happy to see a Ford win. Fuck you Krut
Author:  Cartman [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
NASCAR must be letting Patrica Driscoll run race control in exchange for Kurt's reinstatement.
Author:  de31168 [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Sometimes luck is on your side, sometimes it's not. If that wheel didn't break off when it did at Homestead in 2004, Kurt wouldn't have "Champion" anywhere near his name. There's always next week.
Author:  SBan83 [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
He wouldn't but Kurt is definitely in the same league talent wise as the best that's ever been. Better than many that do have the title.
Author:  de31168 [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Thanks, I needed a good laugh today!
Author:  Chris A [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Sometimes I think Kurt's talent is underappreciated...but that's RIDICULOUS, lol.
Author:  cArmAkAze [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
I always thought Kurt's talent was over-valued. Kurt drove for Roush at the peak of their performance and Penske, who has always been competitive. His stint at SHR has been underwhelming.
Author:  ChrisTRD [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
Idk, I don't think Penske was that great mid to late 2000's. They weren't really considered in the same group with the top teams until the last year or 2 with Dodge and definitely with Ford. And he's only been at SHR for a year so. I mean yeah, he got that win but really was just like the 14 and 10. But I think Tony Gibson is a much better CC from him that Knost was.

Either way, we have to see how well he runs all year, 2 races of running well is too small of a sample in my opinion and I'm a Kurt fan.
Author:  SBan83 [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sprint Cup/Xfinity @ Fontana
It's like back then Penske didn't take NASCAR as seriously as their open wheel stuff and Ford focused on Roush. Now Penske's moved his facility south and also put more emphasis on their NASCAR program and Ford's realized Roush has been one brick short of a load for awhile.
Page 13 of 14 All times are UTC+01:00
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited
https://www.phpbb.com/