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| Author: | Jeff [ Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:03 pm ] |
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Chris A wrote: Interesting comment from Elliott Sadler about his happy hour crash at Michigan in 2000. https://twitter.com/elliott_sadler/stat ... LQsVF85C0w While it would be a weird thing to lie about, I have to say I just don’t believe this is true. He's lying... The onboard shows enough of the wreck. He lifts, goes over, then starts flipping. He's not going further up after the car is obviously hitting the ground each flip. I don't know whether or not he hit the fence..but if he did, it's not the first nor the last time that's happened. And I would say NASCAR's had much closer calls with Dillon/Larson at Daytona and Edwards at Talladega....and they use that footage to promote their races. |
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| Author: | Cartman [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:31 am ] |
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SecretAgentHarvick wrote: coolmike wrote: Or he has the Rusty Wallace syndrome where he makes the crash more insane each time he tells the story. Yep, in his 1983 Twin 125 flip, I think he said he flipped 21 times and in the 1993 Daytona 500 flip he flipped 38 times. Or something like that, if I recall. So Rusty Wallace syndrome is basically Hulk Hogan syndrome, when he talks about slamming the 10,000 lb Andre the Giant in front of 50 million screaming Hulkamaniacs (brother). |
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| Author: | racer612008 [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:22 am ] |
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according to Kenny Sargent on the SpeedFreaks show tonight (at 32:24); sounds like Texas Motor Speedway could be getting the dynamite treatment after next year |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:02 am ] |
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Need to fix the cars, not the tracks. |
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:05 pm ] |
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Have you actually watched any races with the new car? Car isn't really the problem anymore, at least not compared to dumps like Texas. |
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| Author: | Dan Belcher [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:07 pm ] |
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Ian-S wrote: Need to fix the cars, not the tracks. In this case, not really. The racing on the intermediate tracks this year has actually been phenomenal. The problem really is Texas itself. They butchered it when they reconfigured it a few years ago by making turns 1 and 2 insanely wide but lower banked. And then they used the PJ1 traction compound as a band-aid for years, and that left the surface badly stained and it results in even less grip when they don't apply more compound over it. |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:38 pm ] |
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Philthy82 wrote: Have you actually watched any races with the new car? Car isn't really the problem anymore, at least not compared to dumps like Texas. Yes and the races are crap, yes better than they was last year, but still crap. It’s why nobody is watching or posting in the race threads either (The Richmond race thread has 10 posts)./ You may love the races as they are but some of us don’t. Now the teams have figured out the cars it’s going to be even worse. However Dan is right here, they screwed up this track when they reconfigured it. |
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| Author: | Dan Belcher [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:14 pm ] |
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The short tracks and road courses have been bad so far with the new car. (NASCAR even has tested at Martinsville with some changes to the aero for short tracks along with some tire stuff, so we may see changes in the future in that regard.) However, the racing on the intermediate sized ovals has actually been great in my opinion and from pretty much everybody else I've seen talk about it. The races at tracks like Fontana, Michigan, Charlotte, Vegas, etc. have been seriously good all year. |
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| Author: | Chris A [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:15 pm ] |
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I actually think Texas might have been salvageable in its current form if they'd never put the PJ1 down on the track. I fear Texas might just try to go the Atlanta route and give us a FOURTH SS track when we should really be trying to go in the opposite direction and keep that number at two (or zero, preferably). |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:09 pm ] |
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I think it’s almost certain they’ll do that. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:36 pm ] |
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Dan Belcher wrote: The short tracks and road courses have been bad so far with the new car. (NASCAR even has tested at Martinsville with some changes to the aero for short tracks along with some tire stuff, so we may see changes in the future in that regard.) However, the racing on the intermediate sized ovals has actually been great in my opinion and from pretty much everybody else I've seen talk about it. The races at tracks like Fontana, Michigan, Charlotte, Vegas, etc. have been seriously good all year. That's surely all NASCAR cares about, the cookie cutters are the meat and drink of the season and either they or SMI own them so they're interested in improving the racing product there and bringing the crowds back If they hurt the racing for road courses or smaller tracks, oh well....doubt they even care that much |
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| Author: | Cartman [ Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:32 am ] |
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I feel this was inevitable after the admitted success of the Atlanta races. Charlotte will get it soon enough, you can bet on it. |
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:25 am ] |
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Dan Belcher wrote: The short tracks and road courses have been bad so far with the new car. (NASCAR even has tested at Martinsville with some changes to the aero for short tracks along with some tire stuff, so we may see changes in the future in that regard.) However, the racing on the intermediate sized ovals has actually been great in my opinion and from pretty much everybody else I've seen talk about it. The races at tracks like Fontana, Michigan, Charlotte, Vegas, etc. have been seriously good all year. To be fair, the short tracks and road courses were bad for the past few years under the old car too. Seems like more of a tire problem than a car or track problem, the tires just don't wear in any way that adds an extra dynamic to the race. And stage racing IMO has hurt short tracks and road courses more than any other type of event. It removes pit stop strategy at road courses, and removes the driver's mental time bomb from getting stuck behind a slower car with no caution in sight which usually leads to some sweet sweet punterino. |
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| Author: | Chris A [ Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:23 pm ] |
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Tire wear wouldn’t explain why Richmond has been bad for a while. The tire falloff there is immense. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:07 am ] |
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Starting to look like Kurt is done. |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:47 am ] |
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Sounds like Jr’s story, one too many concussions means this relatively minor one is going to take potentially months to recover from. |
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| Author: | trout [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:55 pm ] |
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Dan Belcher wrote: The short tracks and road courses have been bad so far with the new car. (NASCAR even has tested at Martinsville with some changes to the aero for short tracks along with some tire stuff, so we may see changes in the future in that regard.) However, the racing on the intermediate sized ovals has actually been great in my opinion and from pretty much everybody else I've seen talk about it. The races at tracks like Fontana, Michigan, Charlotte, Vegas, etc. have been seriously good all year. the cars have too much grip on the short tracks. they were testing the bristol dirt configuration where they get rid of the diffuser under the car and run that for the short tracks. they also might consider a different tire compound if it's still too much grip without the diffuser |
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| Author: | Outlaw2431 [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:54 pm ] |
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Aric Almirola decided to put his retirement on hold and come back for another year. |
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:33 am ] |
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:20 am ] |
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...yeah, about that... |
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