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Repugnant.

Oh for fucksake...

At least paint it green or something.

Looks like they repaved the whole track huh? I wonder if they took the ridiculous bumps out and if they're trying to attract and IndyCar race as well...

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We are witnessing the pussification of America.

How long until they pave the tri-oval area at Daytona for the sake of safety?

This is the part where I remind you guys that grass doesn't fucking matter. Catch you all next time!

And I'm sure if WRC decided to bulldoze all the trees around rally stages you'd feel the same way right?

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I really don't see what's so wrong with caring about how a track looks as much as how well it produces racing. Under this same reasoning paint schemes don't matter either, but we have a whole thread devoted to them.

I guess we should just make all the cars shades of grey and smear a number on them with finger-paint. As long as they're functional, right?

Aesthetics matter in ANYTHING where I use my eyes to enjoy it. Sure, sex with an ugly woman is still sex, but it's just not the same if she is ugly.

this is the part where i remind you that you telling us all it doesn't matter is far more fucking annoying than us moaning about it in the first place

For once, I agree with Schumifan. It makes you come off as a dick.

Yeek...fuck that. Part of the fun of rallying is trees left and right in most instances.

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I'll admit I was a dick about it, but it's really not all that different than you all bitching about the lack of grass every time. It's an opinion forum. You all constantly whine about item A, and in this instance I disagree. You all are awfully bent out of shape about this considering I haven't actually said a negative or disparaging thing about anyone.

This really isn't how argumentation or analogies work, guys. It's fine if we disagree and you think I'm bonkers, but don't pull that false equivalency bullshit.




Look, I don't disagree that the track looks better with grass. I'm not an emotionless robot. But it just really doesn't matter that much, the way I see it. Competition and speed pretty much counts for most of the reason I enjoy racing. If the tracks are pretty and the cars sparkle; fantastic. A nice bonus. I love great paint schemes and beautiful chassis. But if that's not the case, I really don't have time to get bent out of shape about it if I'm enjoying the event. And if the racing sucks and I'm not enjoying the event, I still don't care about ugly cars and seas of pavement. And lets not lose sight of the fact that, at least in the case of many of the US oval tracks, the removal of grass tends to be a big safety improvement (or at least an effort at it).

See, if you'd have posted that in the first place it wouldn't have been an issue. You said it yourself - this is an opinion forum, so if you come barging into the thread presenting your opinion as unarguable fact and giving off this impression of "I'M CHRIS A, I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE ALL WRONG ", it's going to rub people up the wrong way, don't you think?

I'm on both sides of the coin, here. Yeah, it doesn't look that great, but who cares?

I look at grass, and I think of Fontana. I think of the shittiest bag of shit to ever be thrown at Canadian motorsports fans (Greg Moore's death) and think "yeah, maybe it would have happened elsewhere, maybe not". Still, without that grass, we would have had shit to cheer about, and a career to follow with genuine interest.

But nope. We had to suffer through 10-11 years of JV doing nothing, and nobody else really making any strides whatsoever.

Pave the infield at Daytona, I don't care. Caring between enjoying how a track looks and how "safe" it can be went out the window 12 years ago, for me. *shrugs*

Maybe they could use some sort of plastic grass or something to basically have no dirt or mud to dig into but maintaining that nicely preened and inviting appearance instead of a vast fuggin supermarket parking lot.

Homestead paved all the grass on the front straight and painted it yellow, it really didn't look all that bad imo. However in the truck race, when one driver spun the truck slid for a decade without stopping.

only cos the apron was wet.

That would definitely eliminate the dig-in effect but I can't imagine that would be any good for scrubbing off speed, which is really the main concern with grass for a couple different reasons. Originally NASCAR started having their tracks pave infield sections to help reduce the effect of cars lifting off at high speed. But crashes like Elliott Sadler's (2010) and Jeff Green's (2003) on the backstretch at Pocono also illustrate how much speed cars carry through the grass. They slid a long way and still had huge impacts.