Indeed, they were.

But neither car was as aerodynamically strong as a Red Bull. The RB6 was a bullet. Both the F10 and F2012 had their strong points, but my statement is correct!

I Did lol at the notion of 2012 being a good Ferrari.

Do we not remember what a crisis that team were in at the beginning of the 2012 season? How the Malaysia victory was a complete surprise due to wet conditions and how the Italian media were already calling for heads to roll due to the relative poor performance of the car.

Alonso did a good job capitalising on various circumstances in 2012 (tyres, wet races, etc) but the Ferrari itself was no where near the red bull in out and out pace.

PS: Why did you delete your opinion about 2012 Ferrari/Alonso? That was also well stated opinion. There was various reasons indeed that cost the title but on the opposite side, Vettel and RB got through a lot of bad luck and got the better of it.

It weren't complete trucks (although one of those Ferrari's did carry the name of a Ford pick-up, didn't it?) but the RB was a whole lot better and especially in 2012 the McLaren was faster as well, probably in 2010 and 2011 as well.

@pitlanetalk (1/2) We have confirmation from a respectable Italian journalist, who, like us, also knows that Alonso signed with McLaren last week. #F1

@pitlanetalk (2/2) The announcement however might be delayed until November when Ferrari can sort their line-up as well. #F1 #Formula1

There is no driver on the grid who is more deserving of a good car.

What about Chilton?

There is no driver on the grid who is more deserving of a good car.