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I believe it was actually Irvine who said it was his fault, as it was live on TFI Friday (crap show with Chris Evans back in the 90s). Why, we've no idea as he didn't make contact, as we seen on this forum from Digital TV screen dumps.

The accident you mean I think was the Schumacher one. He maintained it was Michaels fault, and only recently (few years back) took responsibility.

Nope I don't mean that ellis. Coulthard did indeed say for many years that it was Irvine's fault, only admitting he'd knowingly blamed Irvine when it was his error in the past couple of years. I'm unaware of Irvine's admission but maybe that just helped DC suppress his guilt for all those years. That all said I'm pretty sure you and I have debated this before.

As for the incident with Schumi. Well that was six of one and half a dozen of the other.

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Well, technically, nobody hit Coulthard until his car stopped on the grass, he quickly spun out to the side. If the field wasn't as bunched up, there would have been limited damage.

Ermmm what?

If Coulthard had been more circumspect and hadn't lost it fighting Irvine then the carnage wouldn't have happened. Nobody said anything about Coulthard hitting anyone.

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What I meant, is that nobody else was involved in his actual spin, and all the damage came from people checking and piling into each other because they were way too bunched up for the conditions.

A SC start would have given people more space to react, and in fact, after the first cars slow down to avoid him, the drivers far behind would have just driven past him without noticing.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the challenge of a standing start, I approved of it, i had enormous fun that day, but was it a wise call? Certainly not.

It was fine that day and it would have been fine had DC not made his error. Austria 1987, Hockenheim 1994 and Australia 2002 goes to prove that it doesn't have to wet to have startline chaos. All that needs is one or two to make mistakes.

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In hindsight everything is wise.

Part of the skill of being a highly paid grand prix driver should be taking the risk into your own hands, being able to get the car off the line in any conditions and if the worst happens taking the blame for your stupid crash into the wall that took out half the field.

The great tragedy about the modern era is the kind of decisions that seperate the men from the boys and the kind of perfomances that go down in legend, separating the elite from the merely good, are taken completely out of the drivers hand and not even allowed to exist in the first place.

We've all heard stories growing up of Jackie Stewart winning races in the wet by whole laps due to his car control, or Senna hustling uncompetitive machinery to places where it had no business being, but these days you simply won't get the same legendary performances because the drivers won't be allowed to race in those conditions.

Yeah, Jenson Button can wisely decide to change tyres before everyone else and gain a reputation for being a wet weather expert, but changing from inters to dries at the right time isn't quite the same stuff of legend is it?

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That is true, but I'm not arguing wether or not the havoc can happen, I'm talking consequences here. You don't agree that a SC start would have ended in less cars involved and less unavoidable detruction, regardless of the mistake Mr Coulthard made? It's preciesly because mistakes can happen that in bad conditions SC starts can be envisaged, to lessen the impact and give drivers some space and time to react.

Fabs, Codename, this isn't about "LET EM RACE". The race did go to its full distance after all. They rewarded the drivers who managed to survive and stay on an aboslutely insane racetrack.

Quick update on the Weekend Meteorologicos ... Scorchio!

I probably say this every single year: That chicane sure does ruin the flow of the circuit, wrecks the final corner and adds nothing but a few silly accidents. Without that, I actually like the circuit, even if the races don't tend to be that good.

Why did they even add it? It doesn't seem to be an overtaking opportunity for F1. Bikes?

MotoGP doesn't use it.

Couldn't have been a run off issue, because its big enough to catch any car.

It killed 2 of the best corners of the season, especially that last one, it reminded me of the old 130R.

They are just trolling.

Barcelona was far from the most popular track before that chicane, then it was hard to see it worthwhile. Thank god for tracks like Abu Dhabi, COTA and Korea for making us appreciating Circuit de Catalunya, lol. So healthy for the sport.

We should be thankful that Campsa corner remains.

They thought the aero turbulence through the final two corners was scuppering any hopes of an overtake down into the first turn.

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Yeah 2011 (Vettel vs. Lewis) showed that chicane really worked... They should just admit their mistake and use the normal layout.

Formula One in general, well known for admitting mistakes and conceding to logic and reason.

no rain

start praying for tyre trouble, crashes, reliability problems etc...