2014 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix April 4-6

cookie · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:02 am

codename_47 wrote:

It's true. The only way to guarantee great racing is to have faster cars behind slower cars.

Shall well all demand the fia remove kers, drs and stop dicking about with the tyres and just impliment reverse grid races for 2015 then?

Seriously though, at some point this season a merc will have to start lower down the order due to tech issues/penalties/wet qualifying etc. That race will be amazing too.

The Mercs will be at the front in no time though. But I've always wanted to see a championship that has no qualifying, but just lets the races start in reverse championship order every race. That would deliver amazing races I think.

Tom · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:30 am

I think it's downright frightening them being 2s per lap faster than everyone whilst battling each other.

If they'd both had their heads down and had settled in their positions, we might have seen a 2.5 or 3s per lap difference.

ellis · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:04 pm

Scotty wrote:

Tom wrote:

I think it's downright frightening them being 2s per lap faster than everyone whilst battling each other.

No offence to the Force India's that were 3rd and 4th for the majority of the end of the race, but the FI isn't the 2nd fastest car outright. That sort of exacerbated the gap big time. They were saving tyres, and may have been saving fuel.

I do believe on most tracks it would be a 0.75-1 sec a lap advantage they have at the moment, over the 2nd fastest car, the Red Bull (remember when James Allen (?) said Red Bull would be the 8th best team this year?). At the moment, it's horsepower that's getting them there. I just hope Renault and Ferrari are able to close the power car between units.

You're correct that the FIs aren't second best car, but they traditionally do very well at Bahrain. di Resta got 6th and 4th last couple of years I think. So they were rather fast. But yeah you're right.

Ian-S · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:53 pm

Barring mechanical failures or the Pastor factor, I can't see them being beat anywhere without some sort of rule change to help Ferrari.

ellis · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:58 pm

Scotty wrote:

Their straight line speed was immense. Just looking at qualifying they were 1-2 on speed trap speeds. Even when the cars behind them had DRS they comfortably held them off. That speed on the 3 straights clearly helped them immensely. Early money on them to win at Monza?

Oddly they seem to struggle at Monza. But Hulk at Spa might be a nice idea. They're traditionally strong there.

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Have they had the same designer for the last few years? They do always seem to turn out a very slippery car. Also, didn't Fisi do very well at Monza before running into trouble one year?

Kinda reminds me of Ligier always having a car that was mediocre at all tracks apart from Magny Cours, although obviously for very different reasons.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:05 pm

gkmotorsport wrote:

Have they had the same designer for the last few years? They do always seem to turn out a very slippery car. Also, didn't Fisi do very well at Monza before running into trouble one year?

Kinda reminds me of Ligier always having a car that was mediocre at all tracks apart from Magny Cours, although obviously for very different reasons.

They've had Andrew Green for the last few years.

You must be thinking of 2008 - I think Fisichella made Q2 but then shunted fairly early. In 2009 Liuzzi was in the mix for a podium until the car broke.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:14 pm

Sutil was 4th in 2009 at Monza IIRC.

James B · PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:27 pm

Qualified 2nd and set the fastest lap as well

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:48 pm

Yeah, I think 2009 is the one I was thinking of.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:53 pm

Also spa 2009 when only KERS and a FIA-RARRI LULZ!!!! run down the tarmac runoff prevented Fishy winning Spa.

Omega · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:43 pm

Racestart in about 1 hour!

Starting grid:
1 6 Nico Rosberg MERCEDES 1:33.185
2 44 Lewis Hamilton MERCEDES 1:33.464
3 77 Valtteri Bottas WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:34.247
4 11 Sergio Perez FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:34.346
5 7 Kimi Räikkönen FERRARI 1:34.368
6 22 Jenson Button MCLAREN MERCEDES 1:34.387
7 19 Felipe Massa WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:34.511
8 20 Kevin Magnussen MCLAREN MERCEDES 1:34.712
9 14 Fernando Alonso FERRARI 1:34.992
10 1 Sebastian Vettel RED BULL RACING RENAULT 1:34.985
11 27 Nico Hulkenberg FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:35.116
12 26 Daniil Kvyat STR RENAULT 1:35.145
13 3 Daniel Ricciardo RED BULL RACING RENAULT 1:34.051
14 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR RENAULT 1:35.286
15 21 Esteban Gutierrez SAUBER FERRARI 1:35.891
16 8 Romain Grosjean LOTUS RENAULT 1:35.908
17 13 Pastor Maldonado LOTUS RENAULT 1:36.663
18 10 Kamui Kobayashi CATERHAM RENAULT 1:37.085
19 17 Jules Bianchi MARUSSIA FERRARI 1:37.310
20 9 Marcus Ericsson CATERHAM RENAULT 1:37.875
21 4 Max Chilton MARUSSIA FERRARI 1:37.913
22 99 Adrian Sutil SAUBER FERRARI 1:36.840

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:19 pm

haha williams better than Ferrari who knew

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:55 pm

It's nice to watch this race with the hindsight of knowing Nico had put himself into a higher engine mode, against Merc team orders, and still couldn't beat Lewis

One of the most underrated races of all time imo

And you know, flipperz...

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:05 pm

That was a pretty impressive qualifying performance by Nico. Beating Lewis by a 3 tenths, don't see that too often. Starting to sow the seeds for making all the Lewis fanboys salty all the way through to the end of 2016 lol.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:13 pm

Karan wrote:

That was a pretty impressive qualifying performance by Nico. Beating Lewis by a 3 tenths, don't see that too often. Starting to sow the seeds for making all the Lewis fanboys salty all the way through to the end of 2016 lol.

I think the record between them balances out in the end :lol:

IS NICO'S CAREER OVER?

Yeah, ages ago :lol:

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:54 pm

Max Chilton 13th haha his best result

then Bianchi scored points in Monaco

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:50 am

Karan wrote:

That was a pretty impressive qualifying performance by Nico. Beating Lewis by a 3 tenths, don't see that too often. Starting to sow the seeds for making all the Lewis fanboys salty all the way through to the end of today, in this forum lol.

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