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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:40 pm 
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I know it's mainly because we're used to the smaller rims but the photoshop I saw of the 18" wheels on a F1 car just look hideous.

I'll admit I'd probably would be saying the same if it was the other way around.....


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Formula E uses large rims, can't say I'd noticed before we started this discussion. They look fine. As with everything that gets changed with the F1 car aesthetics, there will be the initial shock I'm sure, some hatred and complaining and then it will all die down as people get used to the new look.

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Yeah, I don't think it would even be that big a shock. Does anyone know the diameter of the full wheel and tyre assembly at the moment?


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Photoshop showing what 18" rims should look like:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/09/27/s ... _18s-f138/


Pirelli wanted 18" rims for this year but the teams refused to change them, Michelin were pushing 18" rims in 2010 when they were after for the tyre contract. Pirelli were also pushing for wider rear tyres for this year to help with the extra torque of the new power units.

I believe the reasoning behind 18" rims is that the lower profile tyres is the way things are going now, Pretty much every other racing category has gone to 15/18" rims & the tyre suppliers see the 13" rims F1 has run for a while as been an obsolete specification.


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I can't see anything bad with that image, the wheels and tyres look proportionately fine to the rest of the car.


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I think that looks great.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:40 pm 
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Reminds me oft hat old USF1 photo shop...

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kals wrote:
I think that looks great.


Indeed!


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So long as they ban tyre warmers while they're at it, I'm all for it.

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Big rims would be very logic I think. I don't see any Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti or whatever supercar with the style of wheels F1 currently has (and had for like the past decades)

I will look weird in the beginning, but I think it will look great in the end.


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I like it :)

Would look even better with different coloured wheels.


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Is that all the difference we would see? I don't see what the fuss is all about. Looks fine to me.
Does lower profile reduce the risk of contact punctures? I am thinking front wings coming from the side. Or is that rare enough to make no difference?


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Bernie Ecclestone is planning to launch a ‘masters’ series for former F1 cars and drivers.

With drivers like Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi and Riccardo Patrese at the wheel, ‘GP Masters’ was launched in 2005 but it folded after only 2 races.

Now, business journalist Christian Sylt reports that F1 chief executive Ecclestone is planning his own series, to be called ‘Historic Formula One’.

Forbes quoted Gerhard Berger as saying: “I am sure that it will be successful and that all former drivers would like to participate.”

Martin Brundle said he would like to take part, “especially if it was supporting the F1 calendar”.

Sylt said Ecclestone, who has been highly critical of the new turbo V6 era in F1, plans to have the masters cars powered by deafening V10 engines.

“We have talked about it and it is something we ought to do,” Ecclestone told the Wall Street Journal.

“Many of these old drivers are still absolutely good enough.”

Ecclestone said that, unlike the defunct single-make GP Masters series, his idea would be to form a grid of real F1 cars.

Brundle said: “To attract the household names of decades past I suspect the cars would need to be safer and less physical to drive.”

1996 world champion Damon Hill agreed: “I think most old drivers want to get home to bed early with a good book.”


http://www.motornews.co.nz/top-tier/for ... rs-series/

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Better realize that idea before he dies.


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Better put some money in F1 itself before doing these things nobody cares about.


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Juihi wrote:
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Bernie Ecclestone is planning to launch a ‘masters’ series for former F1 cars and drivers.

With drivers like Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi and Riccardo Patrese at the wheel, ‘GP Masters’ was launched in 2005 but it folded after only 2 races.

Now, business journalist Christian Sylt reports that F1 chief executive Ecclestone is planning his own series, to be called ‘Historic Formula One’.

Forbes quoted Gerhard Berger as saying: “I am sure that it will be successful and that all former drivers would like to participate.”

Martin Brundle said he would like to take part, “especially if it was supporting the F1 calendar”.

Sylt said Ecclestone, who has been highly critical of the new turbo V6 era in F1, plans to have the masters cars powered by deafening V10 engines.

“We have talked about it and it is something we ought to do,” Ecclestone told the Wall Street Journal.

“Many of these old drivers are still absolutely good enough.”

Ecclestone said that, unlike the defunct single-make GP Masters series, his idea would be to form a grid of real F1 cars.

Brundle said: “To attract the household names of decades past I suspect the cars would need to be safer and less physical to drive.”

1996 world champion Damon Hill agreed: “I think most old drivers want to get home to bed early with a good book.”


http://www.motornews.co.nz/top-tier/for ... rs-series/


So the rumors of him trying to de value the price of F1 to buy it out are looking more and more plausible with every statement and action he is taking recently. Bit provocative isn't it to have "screaming v10s" when he has been openly critical of the new generation of engines.....that is if this goes ahead. Believe it when I see it, but you never know with Bernie.


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Why not mix it up with V12's and the BRM H16 and a W12 as well?


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There already is a real series made up of historic F1 cars. It's just the old F1 drivers don't drive them.

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Pastor Maldonado says FIA penalties will spoil Formula 1 racing
By Jonathan Noble Thursday, April 17th 2014, 13:12 GMT


Pastor Maldonado fears that Formula 1 drivers could get too scared to battle hard wheel-to-wheel if the FIA continues to hand out penalties for racing incidents.

The Venezuelan faces a five-place grid drop at this weekend's Chinese Grand Prix for having tipped Esteban Gutierrez into a roll in Bahrain a fortnight ago.

But after putting the Sakhir incident down to a simple misunderstanding, Maldonado thinks there is a danger of FIA punishments acting as a deterrent to hard battles.

"The rules are the same for everyone, so you need to avoid incidents," he said. "But at the same time [the threat of penalties means] you cannot race, you need to only stay on track and wait for problems.

"If you attack and your manoeuvre is not that clear, or the guy is defending the place and you have a gamble, and you are fighting, you can be penalised.

"So they [the FIA] need to be slightly more flexible.

"We are racing drivers and we are always taking risks. If you are competitors and you can overtake, you need to take risks - but at the same point the rules are going against the spectaculars.

"Ten years ago everyone was fighting and touching each other, because there were no penalties. Now we need to adapt ourselves."

CRASH WAS 'SOFT'

Maldonado said he had spoken to Gutierrez after the crash to go through what happened.


And he thinks that perhaps too much was made of the incident because of the freak circumstances that resulted in the roll.

The Lotus driver argued that Jules Bianchi's clash with Adrian Sutil, which was dealt with via an in-race penalty alone, was comparable.

"It was a soft crash," he said. "In my opinion it was a normal race contact - but because of the low nose as soon as I touched his sidepod he took off immediately.

"So it was a bit shocking from that point of view, and I didn't expect him to fly like that. But that is what we have.

"I think the penalty was related to the magnitude of what we saw, but not because of the contact.

"In my opinion, it was exactly the same as [Jules] Bianchi. It was normal race contact."


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More proof if any was needed that this guy is a complete retard. I kinda agree that the FIA is too trigger happy with penalties and "racing" accidents are a thing of the past now, someone has to be blamed.

BUT then he sprouted out this doosey "If you attack and your maneuver is not that clear, or the guy is defending the place and you have a gamble, and you are fighting, you can be penalized". Yes Pastor you dickhead, if you have to do a balls to the wall move in order to get past and cock it up the you should fully expect to be penalized. That has nothing to do with being afraid to overtake and has everything to do with BEING able to over take. Two very very different things. He can't do the latter without crashing into someone.


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