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Grand Prix du Canada 2013 - Winner?
Vettel 25%  25%  [ 16 ]
Webber 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
Alonso 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Massa 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Button 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Perez 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Räikkönen 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Grosjean 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Rosberg 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Hamilton 16%  16%  [ 10 ]
Hülkenberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Gutiérrez 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
di Resta 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Sutil 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Maldonado 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bottas 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
Vergne 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ricciardo 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Pic 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
van der Garde 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Bianchi 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Chilton 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
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Nothing different from any other driver...just gotta play head games.


Yeah but he's too frequent and utterly terrible at it.

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It's hardly a head game, it's just him speaking the truth.

But he'd be better off focusing on his weekend.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:42 pm 
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Woodski wrote:
Nothing different from any other driver...just gotta play head games.


I think it was Ellis who constructed a wonderful post about Alonso's attempts at mind games not so long ago. Everyone should read it.

It's a very good barometer for Alonso's own mental state. The more often he comes out with this sort of crap, you know it's because his blood pressure has gone up two octaves. Think back to the end of last season. He was drip-feeding quotes on a daily basis by the time they got to Brazil, a process which matched up very well with the stream of stories about internal conflict within Ferrari and a downturn in his own performance. He took himself out at Suzuka. He had a verbal fight with his garage team at India. He was outraced by Massa at Korea. All of which led to that photo of him at Interlagos where he looked like a man about to climb the gallows.

As a Vettel and Hamilton fan, I find it very comforting that Alonso is having to resort to this busted flush before the halfway point. He knows he's in trouble.

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It's all easy to bash Alonso's attempts at mind games since he hasn't had a car to really beat any of his rivals the past few years.
He should be concerned with his own performances, but it's obvious that a two time world champion who isn't able to lead championships is bound to feel frustrated.
This year might be slightly different and the Ferrari could be a race winning car at certain tracks depending on Pirelli. But once again I believe the Red Bull and Mercedes are faster cars regarding their pure speed.

Whenever Vettel and Hamilton were under pressure the past few seasons, I don't see them reacting in a cool fashion either.

It's a human reaction to feel frustrated, even the oh so cool Federer was starting to moan when he got blasted by Tsonga.


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It's fine to feel frustrated if things aren't going your way. But Alonso has a very poor way of dealing with his frustration and it ends up compounding the problem. He needs to find a new way of handling it.

Insanity is repeating the same exercise over and over again and expecting a different result.

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He had a verbal fight with his garage team at India.


did he? I can't remember that race honestly. I had been sick all night after eating too much junk food and only half-witnessed the race.


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At least there ought to be reasonable amount of driving during FPs, since rain is also expected for qlf (and perhaps for the race). I haven't even counted how many wet Fridays and Saturdays there has been compared to Sundays in last 2 years. Distribution must be something like 13:2.


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Fish88 wrote:
I think V10's sound so much better than any other engine (V12 included).


Heard a V10 at Albert Park this year (2 seater demo)

absolutely glorious :) :)


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I heard the V10, and they are the best. I was at the Hungaroring in 2004 watching Schumi winning :)
Altrough BMW Saubers V8 from 2006 wasnt bad, infact it had a brutal sound, wich i liked


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Tobias wrote:
why is it again some people dislike Alonso? Oh yes, I remember now...

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Fernando Alonso says Sebastian Vettel due bad luck soon

Fernando Alonso has warned Sebastian Vettel that the world championship leader's luck must change soon.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107892

I wonder what the question was that led to this statement. Probably asking him about bad luck vs rivals good luck. What exactly is he meant to say?
Every sportsman gets these questions asked which are reported as statements rather than answers. That's fine, articles would be rubbish if they read all as q and a.
But Id hardly call this mind games.
I also think he deals with pressure and stress as well as any other driver, perhaps he just talks to the media too much when going through it?
I wouldn't change that though.


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I don't think there'll be a lot of action today.


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And did Alonso say anything that wasn't true? My God, people here would have melt downs over driver comments if this were the 80s or early 90s.


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RtN wrote:
It's fine to feel frustrated if things aren't going your way. But Alonso has a very poor way of dealing with his frustration and it ends up compounding the problem. He needs to find a new way of handling it.

Insanity is repeating the same exercise over and over again and expecting a different result.

And the press has nothing to do with it right? They aren't the people constantly asking questions about it.

I'd like to see some of you people driving in F1 for 10 years and being able to respond like a robot to all questions when things aren't going your way.

Allright, I'm defending Fernando and perhaps that's me being a fanboy. But I don't think you would respond any differently to attacks on Lewis and Sebastian.


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Not raining currently, so intermediate conditions plausible at some point.


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Fabs wrote:
RtN wrote:
It's fine to feel frustrated if things aren't going your way. But Alonso has a very poor way of dealing with his frustration and it ends up compounding the problem. He needs to find a new way of handling it.

Insanity is repeating the same exercise over and over again and expecting a different result.

And the press has nothing to do with it right? They aren't the people constantly asking questions about it.

I'd like to see some of you people driving in F1 for 10 years and being able to respond like a robot to all questions when things aren't going your way.

Allright, I'm defending Fernando and perhaps that's me being a fanboy. But I don't think you would respond any differently to attacks on Lewis and Sebastian.


The press are the same for every driver. I don't see any other driver constantly trying to play these games. I have never seen, for example, Sebastien try and do this sort of shit. Or Kimi. Or Button. Or Lewis. Alonso can give any answer he wants to the questions he is asked, but every time he tries the same tactic and it ends up blowing up in his face.

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Turn 8 has now a tarmac run-off area :x


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