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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:22 am 
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-1991 Jordan type of shape
-2005 V10 with almost 1k HP
- 6 speed stick shift
- Slick tyres, using wide rears
-1991 Jordan and Ferrari, Mclaren 2003, Red Bull 2013, Ligier 1993
- Nordschleife(the real Nurburgring), Spa early 90's, Ostereichring 80's, Suzuka (pre 2003), Monaco early 90's
- Clark(the year of his passing), Fangio(any year of his championships), G.Villeneuve 1979, Senna (1988), Schumacher (1994), Alonso (2012) and Vettel (2013)


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:02 pm 
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Late 50's era type cars (front and rear engined layouts like Vanwall and Cooper)
1980's 1,5L turbo hand grenade engines
5-speed H gearboxes
50's tyres
classic racing colors (green for British, red for Italian, white/silver for German, blue for France, etc)
80's Adelaide, 60's Monaco, 70's Fuji, 70's Kyalami, 60's Riverside
Peterson 1978, Gilles 1982, Montoya 2003, Räikkönen 2013, Alesi 1995, Jean Behra 1959, H.J Stuck 1977

that'd be something.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:29 pm 
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style: Brabham BT44 style car
engines: 3000cc engines (atmo), no turbos. No limitation on the number of cilinders (bring back the roaring V12s!) no rev limits
I don't care about much about shifting
Tyres, bring back the big mid 70s rear tyres
Helmet styles: simple, clear & sticking with it!
Livery designs: Jordan 1991, Gitanes (that special livery they used for the last race somewere in the early 90s), Renault late 70s, JPS late 70s, Jägermeister
Circuits: Spa 80s with the old bus stop chicane, Nordschleiffe, Le Mans (yes the 24 hour version), Zeltweg, Birmingham
Drivers: Prost (1986), Senna (1988), Hunt (1976), Ickx (1970), Schumacher (2002), Villeneuve (1979), Alonso (2012)


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:56 pm 
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Car: 1982 Ferrari 126C2 (ground effect shape) morphed together with 2007 Toyota (modern aerodynamics and safety)
Engine: 1986 rules 1.5l turboes versus 2004 3.0l V10s
Tyres: 1988 slicks but with 2010 grip/wear
Gearbox: 7 speed, modern paddle gearbox
Liveries: JPS, Gulf, 1991 Marlboro/Shell McLaren, 1986 Brabham, 2007 Ferrari with Marlboro logos
Rracks: Nordschleiffe, Spa-Franchorchamps (2000 form), Österreichring 1986 (form), Monza and Interlagos
Drivers: Clark (1967), Senna (1988-1990), Schumacher (2004), Villeneuve (1979), Räikkönen (2003), Häkkinen (1998), Vettel (2013)

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
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I love this kind of free for all and imagination stuff

80's spec

- 1985 aerodynamics spec (huge rear wings, wide width) i.e. Ferrari 156/85
- 1.5L V6 or L4 Turbocharged as BMW M Power M12, no mapping, boost or rev limiter
- Modern gearbox 7 speed, but without electronic assistance for starts
- Goodyear slick tyres, 1985 spec
- 1994 Ferrari, 1985 JPS Team Lotus, 1989 Benetton, 1993 Marlboro McLaren, 1991 Jordan 191
- Spa Francorchamps (1981-2001), Brands Hatch (1976-1987), Monza (1955-1971), Interlagos (1940-1989), Adelaide (GP circuit)
- Gilles Villeneuve (1978), Ronnie Peterson (1973), Stefan Bellof (1984), Peter Collins (1956), François Cevert (1972), Didier Pironi (1980), Jean-Pierre Beltoise (1972)

no stop for fuel, no mandatory stops, no safety cars. if necesary red flag and race will resume with the sum of times, no time limit

'Perfect series'

- 1990 Spec cars, low nosecone and wings, 'coke bottle' design (like Ferrari 641/2)
- 3.5L V10, V8 or V12 all naturally aspirated
- 6 speed manual, sequential gearbox
- 1990 Goodyear Eagles F1
- 1990 Leyton House, 1985 Arrows, 1991 Ferrari, 1979 JPS Lotus, 1995 Sauber
- Silverstone (1991-1993), Spa Francorchamps (1981-2001), Hockenheim (1982-1989), Paul Ricard (1970-1985), Monza (1976-1993)
- Ayrton Senna (1990), Alain Prost (1985), Michael Schumacher (1995), Niki Lauda (1976 before crash), Jim Clark (1965), Juan Manuel Fangio (1955), Sebastian Vettel (2011)

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:57 pm 
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LucasWheldon wrote:
Spa Francorchamps (1971-2001)


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Or this?
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and tbh, Ronnie Peterson was at his worst in 1977, not very motivated at all. Like Kimi in 2009.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:01 pm 
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I used that old racingline.net database to choose, is the 80's shorter track

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:22 am 
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1989-1990 shape
Turbo I4(Limited to 2.0) or V6(Limited to 1.6)
Narrow fronts, wide rears
6 speed manual
(Tyrell 1998, Ferrari 1995, JPS Lotus, Forti 1995, Minardi 1991)
Kyalami, Imola, pre 1991 Silverstone, Suzuka, Mosport(This part is hard...)
Raikkonen 2006, Hamilton 2012, Vettel 2013, Alesi 1990, Senna 1993, Clark 1965, Schumacher 2002(Even harder)

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:54 am 
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1995-97 style
V12s
1997 tyres (hard and soft compounds, with a choice after practice; Goodyear or Bridgestone if possible)
Not bothered about the gearbox - just whatever was used in about 1997
Liveries: JPS Lotus, Marlboro McLaren, Rothmans Williams, mid-90s Ferrari, Mild Seven Renault (2005/06 version)
Circuits: Brands Hatch 1986, Imola 1994, Spa pre-1999, Suzuka 1990s, Adelaide 1995 (Monaco and the Nordschliefe just wouldn't work for this)
Drivers: Alonso (2012), Hill (early 1996), Prost (1985), Raikkonen (2005), Schumacher (1997), Senna (1991), Vettel (2013)


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:07 am 
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This sounds fun.

-2000-style shape
-Choice of 4: 3.5 liter racing N/A, 1.5 liter racing turbo, 2.65 liter stock block turbo, 7 liter stock block N/A. No limits on cylinders, rev limits, no minimum engine life, and no penalties for engine changes.
-5 to 7 speed, H-pattern manual. Anything that resembles a paddle shift or sequential shift is outlawed.
-Goodyear or Firestone racing slicks - closely resembling mid-90s CART slick tires
-Classic Ferrari, Marlboro McLaren, Canon/Camel Williams, JPS Lotus, Leyton House March
-Suzuka, Spa (pre-bus stop adjustments), Watkins Glen (without anything resembling a chicane), Monza (no chicanes), Montreal
-Ayrton Senna (1991), Alain Prost (1985), Sebastian Vettel (2013), Gilles Villeneuve (1982), Michael Schumacher (1995)

On a side note, anything that resembles electronic driver aids is outlawed. Same with those steering wheels with twice as many buttons as an average computer keyboard. Just drive the race car and call it a day. Can't drive the car? Give it to someone who can.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:40 pm 
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Classic 60's formulae

- 3 liter era spec from late 60's, rear engine, no aerodynamics (mostly based on Lotus 49 and Eagle T1G), no electronics
- 3 liter N/A V8 or V12
- 5 speed H pattern manual gearbox
- 60's grooved racing tires (Dunlop, Goodyear or Firestone)
- Ferrari classic rosso corsa, Lotus British racing green with yellow stripe, Eagle AAR dark blue with white stripe, Green Brabham with gold stripe and McLaren orange
- Enna Pergusa (1961-1969), Spa Francorchamps (1957-1978), Nurburgring Nordschleife, Brands Hatch (1960-1975), Watkins Glen (1956-1970)
- Jim Clark, Graham Hill, John Surtees, Jack Brabham, Dan Gurney, Jo Siffert, Jochen Rindt

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
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This would probably be mildly chaotic on the grip front ...
Cars: Mid-60s 1.5 litre cars.
Engines: Mid-80s 1.5 litre turbos. No fuel limits or engine life restrictions, but no variable boost either.
Gearbox: 6 speed stick shift, manual clutching.
Tyres: 2009 spec slicks but of late-60s proportions to give them very slightly more grip.
Liveries: Camel Lotus. Elf Tyrell. Classic Ferrari. 1996 Jordan B&H. Marlboro McLaren.
Tracks: Old Hockenheim for flat out blast, slipstreaming and chicanery. Nordschleife - obviously. Monaco in Night Mode. Osterreichring. Screw it, Old Spa as well.
Drivers: Gilles Villeneuve. Ayrton Senna. Michael Schumacher (early 2000s form). Lewis Hamilton. Keke Rosberg.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
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70's north american F1 championship

-1975 spec cars (based on Ferrari 312T)
-3 litre N/A V8 or flat 12
-6 speed sequential gearbox, no electronics
-goodyear eagles narrower in front, wider and high profile in the rear
-1975 Scuderia Ferrari, 1975 Hesketh, Martini brabham, Lotus JPS, Marlboro/Texaco McLaren, UOP Shadow
- Laguna Seca (1958-1987), Road America, Watkins Glen, Mont Tremblant Circuit Gilles Villeneuve (1978-1986)
-Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney, Phil Hill, Gilles Villeneuve, Richie Ginther, Emerson Fittipaldi.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
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LucasWheldon wrote:
70's north american F1 championship

-1975 spec cars (based on Ferrari 312T)
-3 litre N/A V8 or flat 12
-6 speed sequential gearbox, no electronics
-goodyear eagles narrower in front, wider and high profile in the rear
-1975 Scuderia Ferrari, 1975 Hesketh, Martini brabham, Lotus JPS, Marlboro/Texaco McLaren, UOP Shadow
- Laguna Seca (1958-1987), Road America, Watkins Glen, Mont Tremblant Circuit Gilles Villeneuve (1978-1986)
-Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney, Phil Hill, Gilles Villeneuve, Richie Ginther, Emerson Fittipaldi.


I'd fly over there to watch that. :flag:


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate F1
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Torneo della Passione Rossa

-1958 spec italian chassis (based on Ferrari 246)
-3.5 liter V12 N/A FR layout
-6 speed H pattern gearbox
-Pirelli cinturato classic thin tire
-Ferrari rosso corsa with Cavallino rampante, Alfa corse rosso with quadrifoglio, maserati red and Lancia red
-Enna Pergusa (1961-1969), Pescara (1934-1961), Targa Florio, Monza (1955-1965), Mille Miglia
-Juan Manuel Fangio, Alberto Ascari, Nino Farina, Luigi Musso, Peter Collins, Mike Hawthorne

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