2012 Formula 1 Brazil - Nüsse

kals · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:21 pm

Who cares whether it is relevant or not? It's nice for someone to go to the effort of doing this and nice to look at.

StanV · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:34 pm

That's what I said.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:09 pm

That's not exactly how it reads, but ok I understand now.

Lucasjeha · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:09 pm

StanV wrote:

Lucasjeha wrote:

Why not? If we take the time between 2002-2012 we had 3 different scoring systems, it's many changes for a very short period. It's interesting to see that for an example in a scoring system that only gave points to the first 6, Sauber would be ahead of Mercedes even with Mercedes winning a race and also McLaren would pass Ferrari, mostly due to the difference of victories between those two. Also it's interesting to see that no matter what scoring system, the title would remain to Vettel. I can remember when we changed from 10-6-4-3-2-1 to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 some of the past championships would have different winners and that created a very good discussion about it.

It's something nice to look at and go "heh, nice", but comparing these systems really serves no point as to actually discussing it. Different point systems would've definitely brought us different races and a different championship battle, since you'd have to race in a completely different way to get just 1 point for example. It's like comparing the Tour de France now with back when they had time bonuses at the end of each stage. Completely different race.

Yes, there's always pros and cons, with a system that gives points only for the top 6, you have a race where the drivers fight much more to get into the scoring zone as it's very short, with the victory scoring 10 points against 6 from the 2nd and 4 from the 3rd the victory has much more value for the team than it has right now, as if another team scored 2nd and 3rd it could only make to the same ammount of points as the winner (10). Those are very nice points, but if we think for the slower cars, the system where the top 10 scores is a chance to appear much more, back in the old times, if a driver made a great race but only hit the 7th place he wasn't rewarded for that, now there is this kind of "boost" for the slower teams. But anyway, it seems that it's much more a way for FIA to get money than anything else, let's not forget that by every point scored the driver has to pay an ammount of money to FIA, so that's a way to make FIA grab much more money as much more points are awarded.

ryan86 · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:09 pm

Scotty wrote:

gd49 wrote:

ellis wrote:

Suppose it's a little bit ironic that in the 2003 Brazilian GP Fernando not only ignored yellow flags, but ignored the safety car regulations which resulted in him having a huge accident. An accident which he should've received a multi race ban for. But that might be a miracle is well. It's hard to understand when Fernando is playing mind games and when he's talking complete pish.

I've never understood how alonso escaped punishment for that. Yes he was injured in the crash but that's still the worst example of ignoring yellow flags I've ever seen in f1. Would love to know what radio communication there was, if any, to alonso prior to the crash.

As to what alonso has been saying now, i think its clear he says whatever suits him at the time.

As far as I know, he believed the accident in 2003 happened behind him. Reeks of bullshit though.

And of a lack of common sense. On a circuit the accident is always ahead of you.

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:35 pm

Seeing as Kimi finished a lap down, does that mean he was one lap short of completing every single lap this year?

Ellu · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:53 am

Correct... :cry:

Verstuurd van mijn GT-S5830i met Tapatalk

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:58 am

De Cesaris fan wrote:

Seeing as Kimi finished a lap down, does that mean he was one lap short of completing every single lap this year?

Yes indeed. But his record will probably be never beaten, unless we get way more than 25 races during a season.

EAS · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:53 pm

I had watched the race from the lap 13 onwards.

Now I finally managed to watch the full race and... :8:

ryan86 · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:27 pm

NVirkkula wrote:

De Cesaris fan wrote:

Seeing as Kimi finished a lap down, does that mean he was one lap short of completing every single lap this year?

Yes indeed. But his record will probably be never beaten, unless we get way more than 25 races during a season.

I'm not sure, the reliability of these cars is both impressive and widespread. Massa probably completed a dozen less laps than Kimi this season, Ricciardo about the same and Kovalainen a little bit less.

Антон · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:11 pm

Who this people?

gd49 · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:22 pm

HSHman wrote:

Who this people?

Are they the PR people who arrange the interviews with the drivers in the media pen? The McLaren guy definately is, some of the others look familar too.

amq55 · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:26 pm

Wouldn't be surprised, since most of them are female.

nightflight · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:36 pm

gd49 wrote:

HSHman wrote:

Who this people?

Are they the PR people who arrange the interviews with the drivers in the media pen? The McLaren guy definately is, some of the others look familar too.

Yes, looks like the press staff. Second from right is Andrea Bocca from Ferrari. Second from right sitting is the three times WC press lady...

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:56 pm

I recognize Rosberg's and Vettel's PR girl there so I assume the rest are too.

OS · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:59 pm

The Red Bull PR lady is really cool. I met her at Goodwood in 2006 and she was really kind, helpful and friendly where she really didn't need to be because I was (and remain) nobody important ...

Антон · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:57 pm

thank you all

Omega · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:00 pm

The blonde Mercedes woman is Sabine Kehm, working with Schumacher since his Ferrari days. And now also his manager I think.

Bleu · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:22 pm

kals wrote:

Cash wrote:

Don't forget, Senna was to blame for Mansell retiring at Suzuka in 1991 also, the rotter.

And I've still never forgiven him for that. That cost Mansell the title that year, darn it.

It was much more than that incident which cost Mansell points.

kals · PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:09 pm

I wasn't being serious.

TBK-Light.com

2012 Formula 1 Brazil - Nüsse

Who is online