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I hope not, so McLaren will win again. :beard:

love this.

Push the clutch, is the key

The championship as it would be in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 after German GP:

Drivers Championship

01 – Fernando ALONSO – 50 Pts
02 – Mark WEBBER – 35 Pts
03 – Sebastian VETTEL – 31 Pts
04 – Lewis HAMILTON – 24 Pts
05 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 24 Pts
06 – Jenson BUTTON – 22 Pts
07 – Nico ROSBERG – 20 Pts
08 – Romain GROSJEAN – 15 Pts
09 – Sergio PEREZ – 11 Pts
10 – Pastor MALDONADO – 10 Pts
11 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 06 Pts
12 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 04 Pts
13 – Felipe MASSA – 04 Pts
14 – Nico HULKENBERG – 02 Pts
15 – Paul DI RESTA – 01 Pt
16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt

Constructors Championship

01 – Red Bull – 66 Pts
02 – Ferrari – 54 Pts
03 – McLaren – 46 Pts
04 – Lotus – 39 Pts
05 – Mercedes – 24 Pts
06 – Sauber – 17 Pts
08 – Williams – 11 Pts
09 – Force India – 03 Pts

love this.

Push the clutch, is the key

Saturday will be dry and hot. Sunday some chance of storms. I hope not though

Lucasjeha wrote:

I kinda get the interest in comparing to this occasionally for shits n giggles, but do we really need to have a weekly update? This system hasn't been in place for 10 years, drivers race to the system they're placed in so it's not really relevant, and there's not even anything interesting about the current comparison - it's pretty much the same ranking and gaps at the top.

as ellis pointed out, he doesn't even have enough points to bridge the gap between Alonso and Webber at the top, rofl.

Author:	spekktrum [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:00 pm ]
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2012 Formula 1 ENI Magyar Nagydij - 27/28/29 July 2012 Circuit diagram: Track facts: Race Date: 29 Jul 2012 Circuit Name: Hungaroring Number of Laps: 70 Circuit Length: 4.381 km Race Distance: 306.630 km Lap Record: 1:19.071 - M Schumacher (2004) History: Hungary first hosted a grand prix in the 1930s, but following the Second World War and the building of the Iron Curtain it was not until the 1960s that motorsport began to find a place in the country. At the start of the 1980s there was a general wish for a Grand Prix to be held behind the Iron Curtain and negotiations took place with the Soviet Union with a view to a race being held in Moscow. In the summer of 1983 however, the attention of the Formula One decision makers turned away from Moscow and towards Budapest in Hungary, whose national sporting authority was keen to put the country back on the map of global motorsport. At first a street race through Budapest was suggested, but in the end the decision was taken to build a brand new circuit in a valley 19 kilometres outside Budapest. The valley provided natural vantage points for spectators and in 1985 work began on the Hungaroring. The track opened in 1986 and it held its first Formula One event in August that year. It was a huge success and almost 200,000 fans showed up. Although tight and twisty, the circuit has been known to throw up some great races, the most memorable being Thierry Boutsen's win in 1990, beating Ayrton Senna by 0.3 seconds, and of course the 1997 race where Damon Hill in the Arrows sensationally passed Michael Schumacher's Ferrari only to be denied the win by mechanical failure on the very last lap. Event timetable: [spoiler]Thursday 26th July Formula One Press Conference - Press Room 15:00 Promoter Activity Public Pit Lane Walk for Three Day Ticket Holders only 16:00 - 19:00 Friday 27th July GP3 Practice Session 08:30 - 09:15 Formula One Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk 09:15 - 09:45 Formula One Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30 GP2 Practice Session 11:55 - 12:25 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Practice Session 12:45 - 13:15 Formula One Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk 13:20 - 13:50 Formula One Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30 GP2 Qualifying Session 16:00 - 16:30 Formula One Press Conference - Press Room 16:00 - 17:00 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Qualifying Session 17:00 - 17:45 Saturday 28th July Formula One Team Pit Stop Practice 08:15 - 09:15 Formula One Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk 08:30 - 09:30 GP3 Qualifying Session 09:45 - 10:15 Formula One Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup First Race (14 Laps or 30 Minutes) 12:25 - 13:00 Formula One Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk 13:00 - 13:45 Formula One Qualifying 14:00 GP2 First Race (37 Laps or 60 Minutes) 15:40 - 16:45 GP3 First Race (16 Laps or 30 Minutes) 17:20 - 17:55 Sunday 29th July GP3 Second Race (16 Laps or 30 Minutes) 09:25 - 10:00 GP2 Second Race (28 Laps or 45 Minutes) 10:35 - 11:25 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Second Race (14 Laps or 30 Minutes) 11:45 - 12:20 Formula One Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk 12:25 - 13:15 Formula One Drivers Track Parade 12:30 Formula One Starting Grid Presentation 12:45 - 13:15 Formula One National Anthem 13:46 Formula One Race 14:00[/spoiler] Weather: Sunny and hot, or maybe not...

Author:	Artur Craft [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:11 pm ]
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I think DRS won't have much of an effect here but Pirellis probably will. Without rain I don't expect much action in the race but with this year, you never know..... But if it's to rain, I hope it only happens during the race and not on FPs this time!

Author:	Mika Kimi [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:29 pm ]
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I hope not, so McLaren will win again.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:02 pm ]
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Mika Kimi wrote: I hope not, so McLaren will win again. I don't see McLaren winning there. Hungaroring is a circuit that suits a lot the Red Bull cars, also Mercedes may have a good performance, the circuit is similar to Monaco in some ways and back there Mercedes had a great performance, would have been pole position if it was not by Schumacher's penalty from the previous GP at Spain. Ferrari will be again a threat, but not so much as in Hockenheim. Something that took my attention was that Red Bull had the slowest top speeds at Hockenheim and we saw when Vettel was chasing Alonso, that in the slowest points of the circuit, the Red Bull was very strong, which is a good sign for a track like Hungaroring. Also Schumacher 3rd sector was allways his best in qualifying, in the dry and in the wet, which shows that Mercedes also have a great balance for the most twisted parts of a circuit, they may be a real contender in Hungaroring, but its all a big guess, this season is proving against facts and against any predictions, we have to wait for the first practices to have a first idea of what expects for the weekend.

Author:	stimaro [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:19 pm ]
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Actually looking forward to this one!

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Author:	Антон [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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love this. Push the clutch, is the key

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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HSHman wrote: love this. Push the clutch, is the key The best battle ever in F1 was Gilles vs Arnoux, but the best single overtake move has to be this one, Piquet's car control is unbeliveable.

Author:	Ospi [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:35 am ]
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Really was an amazing piece of driving.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:02 am ]
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The championship as it would be in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 after German GP: Drivers Championship 01 – Fernando ALONSO – 50 Pts 02 – Mark WEBBER – 35 Pts 03 – Sebastian VETTEL – 31 Pts 04 – Lewis HAMILTON – 24 Pts 05 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 24 Pts 06 – Jenson BUTTON – 22 Pts 07 – Nico ROSBERG – 20 Pts 08 – Romain GROSJEAN – 15 Pts 09 – Sergio PEREZ – 11 Pts 10 – Pastor MALDONADO – 10 Pts 11 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 06 Pts 12 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 04 Pts 13 – Felipe MASSA – 04 Pts 14 – Nico HULKENBERG – 02 Pts 15 – Paul DI RESTA – 01 Pt 16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt Constructors Championship 01 – Red Bull – 66 Pts 02 – Ferrari – 54 Pts 03 – McLaren – 46 Pts 04 – Lotus – 39 Pts 05 – Mercedes – 24 Pts 06 – Sauber – 17 Pts 08 – Williams – 11 Pts 09 – Force India – 03 Pts

Author:	Philthy82 [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:24 am ]
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Lucasjeha wrote: The championship as it would be in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 after German GP: Drivers Championship 01 – Fernando ALONSO – 50 Pts 02 – Mark WEBBER – 35 Pts 03 – Sebastian VETTEL – 31 Pts 04 – Lewis HAMILTON – 24 Pts 05 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 24 Pts 06 – Jenson BUTTON – 22 Pts 07 – Nico ROSBERG – 20 Pts 08 – Romain GROSJEAN – 15 Pts 09 – Sergio PEREZ – 11 Pts 10 – Pastor MALDONADO – 10 Pts 11 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 06 Pts 12 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 04 Pts 13 – Felipe MASSA – 04 Pts 14 – Nico HULKENBERG – 02 Pts 15 – Paul DI RESTA – 01 Pt 16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt Constructors Championship 01 – Red Bull – 66 Pts 02 – Ferrari – 54 Pts 03 – McLaren – 46 Pts 04 – Lotus – 39 Pts 05 – Mercedes – 24 Pts 06 – Sauber – 17 Pts 08 – Williams – 11 Pts 09 – Force India – 03 Pts I kinda get the interest in comparing to this occasionally for shits n giggles, but do we really need to have a weekly update? This system hasn't been in place for 10 years, drivers race to the system they're placed in so it's not really relevant, and there's not even anything interesting about the current comparison - it's pretty much the same ranking and gaps at the top.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:52 am ]
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It has some differences, at the top positions not too much, but as there would be no points from 7th to 10th, it would change some stuff. Its also nice to see how much points the team would score and compare to some years where the system were used. I think its nice to keep track and if I do this is cause I want to share that. This season don't have too much difference, but last season for an example, a lot of drivers wouldn't have a single point in this old system, this system that gives points only for the top 6 can show in numbers how much interesting things are this season compared to the last one.

Author:	Tobias [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:02 am ]
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Saturday will be dry and hot. Sunday some chance of storms. I hope not though

Author:	aerogi [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:11 am ]
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HSHman wrote: love this. Push the clutch, is the key probably my all-time-favourite overtaking in the history of F1!

Author:	De Cesaris fan [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:47 am ]
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It's a shame Hungary has been given the tarmac treatment everywhere, because it used to be a challenging little track with not a lot of room for error. On the subject of great battles, this is one of my favourites. I know it's not Hungary, but meh.

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Author:	Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 pm ]
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Tobias wrote: Saturday will be dry and hot. Sunday some chance of storms. I hope not though Really? Last time I checked it said rain only in friday. Those things chance very fast, we will only have a real idea of what will happen when we get to friday.

Author:	webbsy [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:06 pm ]
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Philthy82 wrote: Lucasjeha wrote: The championship as it would be in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 after German GP: Drivers Championship 01 – Fernando ALONSO – 50 Pts 02 – Mark WEBBER – 35 Pts 03 – Sebastian VETTEL – 31 Pts 04 – Lewis HAMILTON – 24 Pts 05 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 24 Pts 06 – Jenson BUTTON – 22 Pts 07 – Nico ROSBERG – 20 Pts 08 – Romain GROSJEAN – 15 Pts 09 – Sergio PEREZ – 11 Pts 10 – Pastor MALDONADO – 10 Pts 11 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 06 Pts 12 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 04 Pts 13 – Felipe MASSA – 04 Pts 14 – Nico HULKENBERG – 02 Pts 15 – Paul DI RESTA – 01 Pt 16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt Constructors Championship 01 – Red Bull – 66 Pts 02 – Ferrari – 54 Pts 03 – McLaren – 46 Pts 04 – Lotus – 39 Pts 05 – Mercedes – 24 Pts 06 – Sauber – 17 Pts 08 – Williams – 11 Pts 09 – Force India – 03 Pts I kinda get the interest in comparing to this occasionally for shits n giggles, but do we really need to have a weekly update? This system hasn't been in place for 10 years, drivers race to the system they're placed in so it's not really relevant, and there's not even anything interesting about the current comparison - it's pretty much the same ranking and gaps at the top. This makes Massa suck balls even more! At least he has double figures in the current standings!

Author:	Tobias [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:15 pm ]
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as ellis pointed out, he doesn't even have enough points to bridge the gap between Alonso and Webber at the top, rofl.

Author:	Rudy88 [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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Lot's of thunderstorms predicted according to my Iphone. It's pointless to say couse it will change everyday, but I'm afraid rain is the only way to make this race interesting. On the other hand, Barcelona and Valencia where the best races so far..

Author:	cookie [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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Tobias wrote: as ellis pointed out, he doesn't even have enough points to bridge the gap between Alonso and Webber at the top, rofl. I think it's good that Massa sucks, now we don't get team order situations like Hockenheim 2010. It makes me appreciate Alonso's season more than when he would have gotten some wins thanks to his teammate moving over. I actually don't mind Alonso being at the top of the standings, and I usually never support a Ferrari driver. But when he's driving as superbly as this year I can't help but like him again (liked Alonso in his pre-Mclaren days, but after his fallout with Mclaren which cost the team a drivers championship, I didn't like him anymore)

Author:	De Cesaris fan [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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I've read that there could be rain on Friday, and thunderstorms on the Sunday. It's going to be warm as well. Remember when we always used to hope for rain? We'd probably rather have it dry after the last few farces in the rain.