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Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:58 pm ]
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I'm sceptical of that. Giedo is going to be running in the free practice sessions and I think that a couple of Dutch outlets picked up on that and tried to spread a rumour.

Author:  amq55 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:38 pm ]
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Tio Ellinas to drive for Marussia in the young driver test.

First cypriot in an F1 car, right?

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:43 pm ]
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He's taking part in the 2013 test. So, early planning...

Author:  EAS [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:56 pm ]
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I'd find it really funny to see him taking a seat for 2013. I wonder the lots of jokes that would come up as "Tio" in Portuguese means "Uncle".

Author:  kals [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
He's taking part in the 2013 test. So, early planning...


Well not really. The highest finishing Marussia Manor GP3 driver is given a test drive in the F1 car, that was Ellinas. They're not going to give him a Friday practice session or time in the car during winter testing, so the young driver test is the next and only logical occassion.

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:31 pm ]
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No, usually they give them a test that year.

Giving him a test in November 2013 does seem like early planning.

Author:  krag [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:40 pm ]
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According to Christophe Malbranque from TF1 (french tv), Lewis Hamilton is about to sign with Mercedes

Author:  iks [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:19 am ]
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I hope he replaces Rosberg but I know that won't happen.

Rosberg isn't much of a racing driver. He's more of a tester like Heidfeld, de la Rosa, Gene, Wurz, etc.

Author:  BrainPain [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:33 am ]
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He is also a race winner, unlike any of the drivers you mentioned. Having said that, so is Pastor God Damn Maldonado, which makes my point useless.

Author:  iks [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:54 am ]
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And then there is Jean Alesi with one win, who was one of the best drivers of his time, in my opinion, obviously.

Author:  micha [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:07 am ]
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maybe both Rosberg and Schumacher will leave.

Rosberg to McLaren and Schumacher back to retirement.

Who would take the 2nd Mercedes seat then? Perez? DiResta?

Author:  Tobias [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:09 am ]
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if Hamilton leaves McLaren that would be a very big surprise to me. I can see Raikkonen taking his place in a team that always loved him. It's also the sort of team that would give him anything he wants (such a that steering). I'd like to see it happen. Kimi & McLaren have unfinished business yet.

Author:  Mika Kimi [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:12 am ]
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I would also love to see that, although I would like to see Hamilton stay as well.

But I don't think Kimi wants to return to McLaren.

Author:  acopip [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:58 am ]
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Maybe we should make a topic like "Predict next year's grid", the results would be presented at Australia next year. ;)

Author:  Tobias [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:02 am ]
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will McLaren still sport the same livery next year I wonder. Isn't Vodafone quietely making its way out?

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:05 am ]
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iks wrote:
And then there is Jean Alesi with one win, who was one of the best drivers of his time, in my opinion, obviously.


If only he went with his head instead of his heart and signed for Williams

Author:  micha [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:14 am ]
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Tobias wrote:
will McLaren still sport the same livery next year I wonder. Isn't Vodafone quietely making its way out?



I hope they ditch the hideous chrome...

Author:  ryan86 [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:09 pm ]
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mclaren2008 wrote:
iks wrote:
And then there is Jean Alesi with one win, who was one of the best drivers of his time, in my opinion, obviously.


If only he went with his head instead of his heart and signed for Williams


1988

Ferrari 2nd 65 points 1 win
Williams 7th 20 points, 0 win

1989

Williams 2nd 77 points, 2 wins
Ferrari 3rd 59 points, 3 wins

1990 (circa Hungary)

Ferrari 2nd 57 points, 4 wins
Williams 3rd 42 points, 2 wins

I don't think it was a bad decision made when you look at the facts.

Author:  kals [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:37 pm ]
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Agreed Ryan. It's all too easy to look back and say Alesi made the wrong decision but at the time it was certainly the best option of the two. And yet, the success Williams achieved in 1991 and onwards can really only be contributed to a handful of people, most notably Adrian Newey (who was still a relative unknown quantity in F1 then) and Nigel Mansell (for his development of the 1991 car). I'm skeptical that Alesi would have had the success Mansell had.

Author:  Cheeveer [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:06 pm ]
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Scotty wrote:
iks wrote:
I hope he replaces Rosberg but I know that won't happen.

Rosberg isn't much of a racing driver. He's more of a tester like Heidfeld, de la Rosa, Gene, Wurz, etc.


Yet Schumacher has been since his return? His only podium, and 4th places have come by attrition (could argue he's lost 1 because of his own luck, but moving on), made plenty of clumsy errors, while Rosberg has been consistent (rides the form, putting the Mercedes where the form dictates it to be), and to remind Christian's point he has won a race.

I almost forget Rosberg won a race this year, it's never really sunk in that he is a GP winner, yet Maldonado has for me.


Well, Rosberg is one of the least controversial drivers in the field. May I even suggest that he is a bit boring? Quite sad, since his father is one of my all time favorite racers.

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