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Author:  phil1993 [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Ah balls. Still, at least they get presented with the proper trophy.

Author:  ChiliFan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:55 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
Speedworx wrote:
Nice write ups. good writing style and is it "Toaster". How do you think its pronounced?


Before I always thought it was Toe-Cester. That's how all the 'cesters' round here are pronounced.

Saturday at Silverstone
http://rhombi8.wordpress.com/2012/08/02 ... -saturday/


you're looking at the syllables wrong

towce-ster
bice-ster
glouce-ster

Author:  phil1993 [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:58 pm ]
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True. It's just not something I'd ever thought about in detail. When I tried thinking about 'Cesters' pronounced like 'Towcester', I couldn't think of any. Pretty dim to forget Bicester and Gloucester. I could only think of Silchester, Colchester, Chichester, Cirencester. Good job of an English student to miss something fairly obvious!

Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:50 pm ]
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Norfolk must win the award for the most stupid pronounciations. Happisburgh = haze-borough. Costessey = Coss-ey. Mundesley = Muns-ley. Wymondham = Wind-uhm.

I also used to think it was Tow-cester, until my dad corrected me a few years ago.

Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:46 pm ]
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I have written a mid-season review of each driver, for anyone who has 10 minutes or so spare
http://www.f1zone.net/news/2012-mid-sea ... iew/15216/

Author:  Ellu [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:29 pm ]
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To get back on the trophies, here is the Canadian one I like altough being a sponsored one.

Image
SAM_1505 by Ellu_EP, on Flickr

And some more photos in the Gallery, these are displayed at the Ferrari Museum in Maranello.

Image
SAM_1500 by Ellu_EP, on Flickr

Author:  osella 1986 [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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http://www.f1technical.net/news/17681?u ... ne+news%29
The the end of the article Ferrari say they have an Engine package for Monza, thought you weren't allowed to do anything to the engine seeing they are in an engine freeze. Maybe I interpreted it wrong.

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:55 am ]
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Had a run through of 2012 penalties so far.

[spoiler]Sebastian Vettel
- Malaysia: Speeding in the pit lane, fined
- Spain: Failed to heed yellow flags, drive through penalty
- Canada: FP1 incident with Senna, reprimand
- Germany: Left the track and gained an advantage, 20s penalty

Mark Webber
- Germany: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change

Jenson Button
- Germany: Pit exit white line, fined

Lewis Hamilton
- China: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Spain: Car failed to return post-qualifying, sent to the back of the grid

Felipe Massa
- Spain: Failed to heed yellow flags, drive through penalty

Michael Schumacher
- Bahrain: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Spain: Left the track without explanation, reprimand
- Spain: Caused a collision, 5 place grid penalty in Monaco
- Hungary: Pit lane speeding, drive through penalty

Nico Rosberg
- Germany: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change

Kimi Raikkonen
- Malaysia: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Canada: White line pit entry, fined

Romain Grosjean
- Germany: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change

Nico Hulkenberg
- Spain: Pit lane speeding, fined
- Monaco: FP3 incident with Perez, reprimand
- Britain: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change

Kamui Kobayashi
- Europe: Collided with Massa, 5 place grid drop in Britain
- Britain: Unsafe manoeuvre in the pits, fined

Sergio Perez
- Australia: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Monaco: Impeded Kimi Raikkonen in the race, drive through penalty
- Germany: Impeded Alonso and Raikkonen in qualifying, 5 place grid penalty

Jean Eric Vergne
- Bahrain: Failed to attend weighbridge, reprimand
- Canada: Pit lane speeding, drive through penalty
- Europe: Collided with Kovalainen, 10 place grid penalty in Britain and fined

Pastor Maldonado
- China: Impeded Kovalainen in Q1, reprimand
- Bahrain: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Monaco: Breach of sporting code, 10 place grid penalty
- Canada: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change
- Europe: Pit lane speeding, fined
- Europe: Collided with Hamilton, 20s penalty
- Britain: Collided with Perez, fined and reprimanded
- Germany: Pit lane speeding, fined
- Hungary: Collided with di Resta, drive through penalty

Bruno Senna
- Europe: Collided with Kobayashi, drive through penalty

Heikki Kovalainen
- Australia: Illegally unlapped himself, 5 place penalty for Malaysia

Vitaly Petrov
- Hungary: Pit lane speeding, fined

Pedro De La Rosa
- Malaysia: Team personnel on the grid after 3 minute warning, drive through penalty
- China: Impeded Senna in Q1, reprimand

Narain Karthikeyan
- Malaysia: Collided with Sebastian Vettel, 20s time penalty
- Europe: Pit lane speeding, drive through penalty

Charles Pic
- Spain: Ignored blue flags, drive through penalty
- Britain: 5 place grid penalty, gearbox change

Mercedes
- China: Unsafe release for Schumacher, fined

Sauber
- Europe: Car 15 did not stay below the maximum time set by the FIA between the Safety Car Line after the Pit Exit and the Safety Car Line
before the Pit Entry in Q2, fined

Caterham
- Petrov used a front tyre in Q1 which had not been presented to the FIA Technical Delegate prior to the end of scrutineering, fined[/spoiler]

Pastor :lol:

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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Little request:

I'm trying to write a slightly different article - commenting on the changing way F1 is being reported on; primarily how the Internet has altered F1 media over the past ten years ago. I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of (mainly older) F1 fans and how they think it's changed. And whether it's for the better...

Author:  ellis [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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Yeah, it's much better. Like everything else I can get news instantly now, rather than waiting a week for a magazine to come out.

Some will claim that the news today isn't as accurate and often takes little rumours and runs with it, but it's always been like that. Remember when Autosport reported that Stewart GP were about to become Ford F1? And then they did it again when Jaguar were going to turn into a Ford super team. So it's no less accurate than before, it's just more frequent.

And the internet allows you to follow every series in the world. I wouldn't care about Blancpain if it was just a couple of paragraphs in Autosport every few weeks. But thanks to the internet I can follow it properly. This goes for every series.

Author:  bigears [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:14 pm ]
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But I feel that it does cover more racing series but it gets less mentions. Motoring News (now Motorsport News) is a weekly edition and it covered main motorracing series in full detail, now there are reporting more motorsport but in less detail as there is no room.

Meanwhile, anyone remember this:



I found an unseen scan of the accident:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Author:  Gaara [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:19 pm ]
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It's definitely better, if you were lucky something would be on Ceefax but otherwise it wouldn't be until Autosport came out.

Author:  kals [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:34 pm ]
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Accessibility to news is certainly better, but thanks to the vast quantity of news articles the quality of the journalism is not.

Author:  RtN [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:06 pm ]
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It's better in terms of how quickly a fan can find something out but I would say that the internet has made it worse in terms of content. There are whole websites out there which pretty much run on the barrel scrapings of everyone else and things they hear in the pub, which doesn't do anyone any favours, especially internet-only motorsport news outlets. Obviously print media wasn't perfect in this regard 'back in the day' but the stories and rumours that they got wrong were one-off pursuits of scoops rather than some sort of business model.

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:00 am ]
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Thanks. Worked most of that into it.

Author:  Schumifan [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:29 am ]
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I also think the fact that EVERYTHING drivers say nowadays can be reported on instantly and in detail may have contributed to the PR-robot nature of F1. Beforehand they could probably get away with making more controversial/interesting statements because they were under far less scrutiny.

Author:  micha [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:50 am ]
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phil1993 wrote:
I have written a mid-season review of each driver, for anyone who has 10 minutes or so spare
http://www.f1zone.net/news/2012-mid-sea ... iew/15216/



you forgot to mention Pastor's win in the header.

Interestingly, as far as I can remember this is the first season in years where no driver has been replaced.
We almost had this a few years back

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:04 am ]
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No driver was replaced in 2008, I think that was the last season it happened. (Although Sato & Davidson did lost their seats when Super Aguri went bankrupt).

Author:  micha [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:06 am ]
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phil1993 wrote:
No driver was replaced in 2008, I think that was the last season it happened. (Although Sato & Davidson did lost their seats when Super Aguri went bankrupt).



well, let me rephrase that then. This could be the first season that the drivers that started the season also ended the season without being replaced ;)

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:11 am ]
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Yeah, the only driver I can realistically see being replaced is Karthikeyan. But then it would only be if Clos can raise enough sponsorship. With the way the Spanish economy is, that isn't actually very realistic at all!

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