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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:15 am 
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About everybody winning and people loose interest?

I agree with that.

Don't get me wrong, I find it absolutely fantastic we had 6 winners out of 6 races, and that it seems everybody can win a race.

But like I said earlier, its great and fun if the smaller Spanish teams Rayo Vallecano, Zaragoza, real sociedad and Mallorca would make the top 4 next year, thus no Barcelona, no Real Madrid in the Champions leauge. That would be fun for once. But not if it would happen each and every year.

In the end people want to see the big names! And if they are beaten by a small team that makes it even more fantastic and great. But if it happens all the time then it's not that 'fantastic' anymore. Everyone remembers Schumacher, even my grandparents know who he is, simply because at a certain point he was on the news all the time when he won. They don't know Sergio Perez, they don't know Maldonado, they don't know Rosberg (or it should be Keke) etc...

But like I said, there's nothing wrong to have a year like this. It should just be the exception.


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It seems that Eric Bouiller and Gerard Lopez weren't too impressed with Kimi in Monaco. They made a special steering for him (to try and fix the problems) and asked him to come and try it on the simulator before going to the race but he didn't. They lost all of FP1, wet in FP2 and as a result had a poor-setup.

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Ok, who of you allowed them to borrow all my cars ??? :x


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Quite frankly, I'm astonished that Phil hasn't linked this story yet, so I'll do it for him!

Mexican GP to replace Valencia in 2013


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nea wrote:
Quite frankly, I'm astonished that Phil hasn't linked this story yet, so I'll do it for him!

Mexican GP to replace Valencia in 2013


Yeehaaa!! Yes we gonna get rid of Valencia (even with the new rules they didnt help in overtaking)


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I'd laugh if it somehow produced the greatest GP ever seen next month.


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http://www.sportinglife.com/others/news ... ml&BID=678

What a total bunch of mongs.


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Its not the Mexican GP without the Peraltada corner.


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nea wrote:
Quite frankly, I'm astonished that Phil hasn't linked this story yet, so I'll do it for him!

Mexican GP to replace Valencia in 2013


I would be steering clear of that event if you like your head on your shoulders.


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I personally find it humorous that Schumacher went through his career largely with extraordinary reliability in an era of unreliability, while he's now having an unreliable car in a period of extraordinary reliability :lol:

Anyway, back to the point. The only thing I don't like is when DRS is just ridiculous. Turkey and Canada last year were two examples. If the DRS zone is on the back straight next weekend it's going to be silly because there won't be any skill involved. I've maintained since the start of DRS that we need to have the zones on an area of the track that is not the main overtaking point, but may provide one and also close the cars up ahead of the main overtaking point.

I don't think the Pirelli tyres are vastly different than 2011, it's the cars that are. In 2011, you had those with the EBD, those without. That created a large gap between the front and the midfield. Then inside of those leading teams you had a varying level of how the teams could get the EBD to work. Ferrari was comfortably 3rd best, Mercedes 4th. But behind Vettel - whose 2011 was a mixture of a driver and car working in perfect tandem - you had some close racing and some odd positions. This year, the teams are so much closer. The only main difference with the tyres is that they operate effectively for each team in a much shorter temperature range. A swing of 5c will play into the hands of another team. Last year, most teams fell into the same operating window in terms of temperature and therefore effectiveness. In 2012 for some reason, the Red Bull & Lotus works well when it's hot, Mercedes when it's cool not cold and Ferrari when it's warm. I still can't comment on McLaren, because they need to stop cocking up.

As for unpredictability, well we've had Jenson Button (champion), Fernando Alonso (champion), Nico Rosberg (frequently touted as a champion), Sebastian Vettel (champion) and Mark Webber (almost won the 2010 title) win races. The only really, really unusual unexpected results have been Sergio Perez's second, which came through tactical genius and a driver who was outstanding on that day plus Pastor Maldonado's victory. We're not having Marussia or HRT winning.

Another point is that I don't know why everyone is so apeshit about saving tyres in qualifying; the last four winners have won from pole position...


After I wrote that earlier, it seems that Autosport's Jon Noble has the same opinion
http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... o-lottery/

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The 2011 season was effectively decided by blown diffusers. The team that had optimised it the best – Red Bull – walked away with the championship, with main rival McLaren only launching a challenge after ditching its fan-tail version for an RBR-style concept on the eve of the campaign.

Ferrari made progress in that area over the year but it was not enough; Renault's season was wrecked by its forward-facing exhausts not allowing it to exploit a proper blown diffuser, and Mercedes GP's basic car concept was not well suited to blown diffusers either. Other teams – like Sauber and Williams – never got the blown diffusers working properly at all and really struggled.

With blown diffuser technology at risk of getting out of control – especially in cost terms as hot blowing got more and more complicated – the FIA acted in the interests of the sport to ban them for 2012.

That ban had two main consequences that have played big parts in what we have seen this year: it helped close the competitive order up, and it has produced cars with less rear downforce, which has had a knock-on effect on tyre performance.

In competitive terms, the one-second advantage that Red Bull Racing enjoyed over the non-blown diffuser opposition was wiped away instantly, in an era where increasingly tight technical regulations make it hard to find such advantages anywhere else on the car.

Teams like Williams and Sauber that really struggled with blown diffusers and had very difficult 2011 campaigns were going to start on a much more level playing field, while Lotus and Mercedes were given a bit of a leg up for their 2012 hopes.

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phil1993 wrote:
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wow, are those smog free skies?


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ryan86 wrote:
I'd laugh if it somehow produced the greatest GP ever seen next month.



Don't hold your breath, Ryan.


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: Good text from you once again, the Autosport bit is also pointing out why the season has been so tight so far.

The rules that were introduced for 2009 were aiming for this, there just happened to be few loop holes (double diffuser, blown diffuser, ultra high nose) that are now banned. There were two teams, BrawnGP and Red Bull, that were able to exploit these loop holes and almost walked away with the titles. Behind them it was much tighter.

Williams got Renault engines for this year, which are way better than Cosworths. A team as experienced as Williams should be able to get good amount of points when they have an equal engines. Somehow people (and mainstreet media) forgot that this team has been one of the most succesful teams in F1 history. Same can be said about Lotus Renault, but since they have a world champ driving for them, people expect them to win.

Six winners so far, and we really can't count out Räikkönen, Hamilton, Schumacher, Grosjean or even Perez from the winners circles. And who knows what Force India can do, maybe a podium like in Spa 2009. If someone hates the unpredictability of this season, then go watch the highlights of 2002 season or watch every Valencian GP back to forth. Also, we're having tons of on-track action now, not just a random lottery of who's tires are going to work and who's not, even though some people likes to see it that way when their favourite drive is not walking away with it.

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Sauber have cut an F1 car in half. It's amazing.

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The only thing this season is really missing is Robert Kubica. Imagine if he was in the Ferrari alongside Fernando. Man, that'd be cool.

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phil1993 wrote:
The only thing this season is really missing is Robert Kubica. Imagine if he was in the Ferrari alongside Fernando. Man, that'd be cool.

To be honest, I'm not missing him at all. I have been missing him, but now...
I still think that he should have informed his fans about his health back in the past months.


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phil1993 wrote:
The only thing this season is really missing is Robert Kubica. Imagine if he was in the Ferrari alongside Fernando. Man, that'd be cool.

To be honest, I'm not missing him at all. I have been missing him, but now...
I still think that he should have informed his fans about his health back in the past months.


Have to agree on that. Haven't missed him yet because he doesn't give any life sign or something.

Hope he comes back, but a little updates now and then wouldn't hurt. Maybe the lack of signs is because the progress isn't going too well, but really hope that isn't the case.


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I read recently that he had to have another operation on his elbow (his 8th overall I think) and I don't think he'll ever return. I hope he will, but I doubt it.

I don't believe some people who said he was better than Lewis and Seb; he had a great 2008 and a good 2010 in which he was praised a bit too much; even so he's bloody quick and easily one of the top 10.

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Nick Heidfeld was always close on pace with Robert. Don't think the Pole was that fast actually. The Renault of 2010 was just a great car which looked/seemed slow because of Petrovs frequent crashes.


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