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I know it doesn't always produce very good races, and they're always bloody short, but I just love the feel of Monza. Narrow track, trees, history, gravel, and speeeeeeeed.

Also really wanted to go but just got lazy. 2012 maybe!

I'm beginning to think that the distance limits for F1 races should become part of a reasonable range, depending on the circuit, rather than a set figure.

This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Gabriel wrote:

This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Any Ideas where they'll allow DRS ?

One of the things I don't like about F1 is the fact there isn't an event that can be labeled as the greatest race of the season, with it's own set of sporting rules and with extended entries, etc. Like the Indy 500, Daytona 500 or LM24.

This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Does somebody know anything about the wheather? Because i will be there, and i wanna know if i need to take a umbrella with me.

Hope my man at least makes it to parrabollica unlike last year where i was dissapointed only to see him on parade lap.

Author:	SirVanhan [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:11 pm ]
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Gran Premio Santander d'Italia 2011 Autodromo Nazionale di Monza Number of Laps: 53 Circuit Length: 5.793 km Race Distance: 306.720 km Lap Record: 1:21.046 - Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (2004) Tyres: Soft/Medium Race stewards: Derek Daly, Paul Gutjahr, Silvia Bellot Weather SCHEDULE (All times CET) Fri 09 September 2011 Free Practice 1: 10.00-11.30 (You need JavaScript to be activated to be able to use the timer function) Free Practice 2: 14.00-15.30 (You need JavaScript to be activated to be able to use the timer function) Sat 10 September 2011 Free Practice 3: 11.00-12.00 (You need JavaScript to be activated to be able to use the timer function) Qualifying: 14.00 (You need JavaScript to be activated to be able to use the timer function) GP2 Race 1 (30 laps): 15.40 GP3 Race 1 (16 laps): 17.20 Sun 11 September 2011 GP3 Race 2 (16 laps): 8.55 GP2 Race 2 (21 laps): 10.30 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Race (14 laps): 11.45 Race: 14.00 (You need JavaScript to be activated to be able to use the timer function) History of Monza History of Italian Grand Prix DRIVER STANDINGS 1 Sebastian Vettel 259 2 Mark Webber 167 3 Fernando Alonso 157 4 Jenson Button 149 5 Lewis Hamilton 146 6 Felipe Massa 74 7 Nico Rosberg 56 8 Michael Schumacher 42 9 Vitaly Petrov 34 10 Nick Heidfeld 34 CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS 1 Red Bull Racing Renault 426 2 McLaren Mercedes 295 3 Ferrari 231 4 Mercedes 98 5 Renault 68 6 Sauber Ferrari 35 7 Force India Mercedes 32 8 Toro Rosso Ferrari 22 9 Williams Cosworth 5 LAST WINNERS 2010 Fernando Alonso - Ferrari 2009 Rubens Barrichello - Brawn GP Mercedes 2008 Sebastian Vettel - Toro Rosso Ferrari 2007 Fernando Alonso - McLaren Mercedes 2006 Michael Schumacher - Ferrari 2005 Juan Pablo Montoya - McLaren Mercedes 2004 Rubens Barrichello - Ferrari 2003 Michael Schumacher - Ferrari 2002 Rubens Barrichello - Ferrari 2001 Juan Pablo Montoya - Williams BMW ONBOARD POLE LAP: Fernando Alonso, Ferrari - 1:21.962

Author:	phil1993 [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:35 pm ]
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Woo Monza. Watched last year's race edit - still the best one FOM has ever done - and it made me sort of miss good old fashion fights: Button vs Alonso was tense and evidence of different set-ups requiring defensive driving. Now you just whack DRS on and steam past. Still, should be a good'un, love the setting of Monza, really wanted to go but sorta missed the deadline

Author:	De Cesaris fan [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:44 pm ]
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I know it doesn't always produce very good races, and they're always bloody short, but I just love the feel of Monza. Narrow track, trees, history, gravel, and speeeeeeeed. Also really wanted to go but just got lazy. 2012 maybe!

Author:	Gabriel [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:09 pm ]
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This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Author:	phil1993 [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:16 pm ]
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De Cesaris fan wrote: I know it doesn't always produce very good races, and they're always bloody short, but I just love the feel of Monza. Narrow track, trees, history, gravel, and speeeeeeeed. Also really wanted to go but just got lazy. 2012 maybe! As long as they keep gravel at the Lesbos, Ascari & Parabolica. If not then the track is ruined

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Author:	Tamburello94 [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:16 pm ]
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I'm beginning to think that the distance limits for F1 races should become part of a reasonable range, depending on the circuit, rather than a set figure.

Author:	Jonny [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:17 pm ]
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My favourite Grand Prix of the season.

Author:	Fabs [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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Gabriel wrote: This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Author:	American Dragon [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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Fabs wrote: Gabriel wrote: This race should have at least 10 more laps.

Author:	aerogi [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:13 pm ]
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that could be a problem regarding the fuel load then, I don't think there is enough room to add fuel for 10 laps, especially knowing that Monza is already quite big on fuel consumtion (I assume). but i agree though, they should more aim towards a certain time instead of number of kilometres. I'd say races should be at least 1h30.

Author:	Gabriel [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:03 am ]
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I'd think a track with constant braking/acceleration should be bigger on fuel consumption than a track like Monza. Still, I think any change to the 300-something km rule should come together with a return to refuelling. One of the things I don't like about F1 is the fact there isn't an event that can be labeled as the greatest race of the season, with it's own set of sporting rules and with extended entries, etc. Like the Indy 500, Daytona 500 or LM24.

Author:	Stoegi [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:25 am ]
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Any Ideas where they'll allow DRS ?

Author:	phil1993 [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:27 am ]
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ShaneC wrote: Any Ideas where they'll allow DRS ? Zone 1: Pit straight Zone 2: Lesmo 2 > Ascari

Author:	Andy [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:23 am ]
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slipstreaming battles hopefully

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Author:	aerogi [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:54 am ]
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isn't the finish flag line in the beginning of the straight?

Author:	Omega [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:56 am ]
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Gabriel wrote: One of the things I don't like about F1 is the fact there isn't an event that can be labeled as the greatest race of the season, with it's own set of sporting rules and with extended entries, etc. Like the Indy 500, Daytona 500 or LM24. Monaco has its own rules, with shorter distance and no safety

Author:	alex1369 [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:12 am ]
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Does somebody know anything about the wheather? Because i will be there, and i wanna know if i need to take a umbrella with me. Hope my man at least makes it to parrabollica unlike last year where i was dissapointed only to see him on parade lap.

Author:	cookie [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:15 am ]
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Gabriel wrote: This race should have at least 10 more laps. indeed, they can add the distance to this race that they cut from the Monaco race (around 45 kilometers). Only problem is their fuel tanks as mentioned above. The engines can take it now unlike in the past.

Author:	Omega [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:37 am ]
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alex1369 wrote: Does somebody know anything about the wheather? Because i will be there, and i wanna know if i need to take a umbrella with me. Hope my man at least makes it to parrabollica unlike last year where i was dissapointed only to see him on parade lap. It's still 11 days from now. Even the most optimistic man can only guess.