2009 Round 3: Chinese Grand Prix *spoilers*

Spinny35 · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:29 am

amq55 wrote:

RtN wrote:

At Monaco, Massa and Hamilton both made one mistake. Massa was fortunate in that he made his at a corner where there's an escape road. Lewis was lucky in that he didn't break his suspension and that it was a strategically optimum time to pit thanks to a later SC.

At Silverstone, Lewis beat the field by a clear minute whilst Massa spun 5 times (again) and ended the afternoon last of the classified runners.

At Monza, Massa starts 6th and Lewis starts 15th. By the end of the race, without the assistance of safety cars, Lewis finishes 1.1 seconds behind Massa.

Massa's reputation in the wet is (was?) far less positive than Hamilton's and the races above explain why.

And also Spa, where in the whole race Hamilton was fighting Raikkonen and won (on track he did), and Massa took nearly 3 minutes to do the final lap.

Massa just won on the desk.

Massa won in Brazil while Hamilton was fighting in the points. I say its line ball whos better in the rain. Either way i also thought Massa would struggle in china but he was suprisingly good.

BenAD · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:25 am

Reading through some posts, its almost as though its a revelation that racing drivers make errors lol

Overall I really enjoyed the race, I was expecting one or both red bulls to internally combust and break down at any moment!

Nice to see someone challenge the Brawns, although in the dry it will be a different story. Then again with all the teams rapidly trying to get their difusers done, it should make it very close soon

Bleu · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:02 am

RtN wrote:

Fangio won the first GP for both Mercedes and Maserati, almost in the same year (1954).

Damon Hill came bloody close.

EDIT: Found another one - JYS won the first GPs for both March and Tyrrell.

Stewart was the previous one.

Another driver with two is Dan Gurney: Porsche and Eagle.

Justin Time · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:40 am

PAXTON wrote:

Artur Craft wrote:

Watch 2088 Monaco Grand Prix

@ Artur
Everyone got your point that you have selected memory about Hamilton.

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:27 pm

Justin Time wrote:

PAXTON wrote:

Artur Craft wrote:

Watch 2088 Monaco Grand Prix

@ Artur
Everyone got your point that you have selected memory about Hamilton.

I have been doing too much typos lately.

I have a selected memory of a very good race by Hamilton in Australia, just a few weeks ago. I was expecting him to do a "racional race" again but I got really disapointed seeing the guy spin so much. What Docronzo say is correct, Mclaren has problems with rear downforce, so has Renault and FI(although the DDD is already helping a bit the big ones), that is the reason why Alonso is having trouble in the races, and Fisi and Sutil spins a lot for no other reason. In this chinese GP it was more like a psychological thing cause Hamilton over did it, even Piquet spun less. In the mental aspect I think the other brit Button is way ahead of Hamilton, Jenson can be fast and still you don't see he trying to do what the car can't offer. I hope Melbourne's Hamilton come back.

Btw, Vettel is now called in Germany as "das neu regen meister".

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:05 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

PAXTON wrote:

Artur Craft wrote:

Watch 2088 Monaco Grand Prix

I have been doing too much typos lately.

I have a selected memory of a very good race by Hamilton in Australia, just a few weeks ago. I was expecting him to do a "racional race" again but I got really disapointed seeing the guy spin so much. What Docronzo say is correct, Mclaren has problems with rear downforce, so has Renault and FI(although the DDD is already helping a bit the big ones), that is the reason why Alonso is having trouble in the races, and Fisi and Sutil spins a lot for no other reason. In this chinese GP it was more like a psychological thing cause Hamilton over did it, even Piquet spun less. In the mental aspect I think the other brit Button is way ahead of Hamilton, Jenson can be fast and still you don't see he trying to do what the car can't offer. I hope Melbourne's Hamilton come back.

Btw, Vettel is now called in Germany as "das neu regen meister".

"racional race"?

Don't you mean "rational race"?

ryan86 · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:13 pm

Bleu wrote:

RtN wrote:

Fangio won the first GP for both Mercedes and Maserati, almost in the same year (1954).

Damon Hill came bloody close.

EDIT: Found another one - JYS won the first GPs for both March and Tyrrell.

Stewart was the previous one.

Another driver with two is Dan Gurney: Porsche and Eagle.

Some "statisticians" may disagree with me, however in my book I'd have Jenson Button as well.

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:17 pm

Bleu wrote:

RtN wrote:

Fangio won the first GP for both Mercedes and Maserati, almost in the same year (1954).

Damon Hill came bloody close.

EDIT: Found another one - JYS won the first GPs for both March and Tyrrell.

Stewart was the previous one.

Another driver with two is Dan Gurney: Porsche and Eagle.

Just found out that Dan Gurney has 3: Porsche, Eagle and Brabham.

Not bad for someone with only 4 GP victories.

caio89 · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:06 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

Btw, Vettel is now called in Germany as "Der neue Regenmeister".

fixed grammar

amq55 · PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:54 pm

RtN wrote:

Bleu wrote:

RtN wrote:

Fangio won the first GP for both Mercedes and Maserati, almost in the same year (1954).

Damon Hill came bloody close.

EDIT: Found another one - JYS won the first GPs for both March and Tyrrell.

Stewart was the previous one.

Another driver with two is Dan Gurney: Porsche and Eagle.

Just found out that Dan Gurney has 3: Porsche, Eagle and Brabham.

Not bad for someone with only 4 GP victories.

Stewart also has 3: Matra, March and Tyrell

Scirocco · PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:12 am

I can't see how anyone could not vote for vettel, he was in a class of his own. No-one could stop him. He was even watching water drops on his visor zig zag around while he was driving. That's class. :flag:

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