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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:20 am 
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I hope he wins it like Nigel Mansell and he's had pretty bad luck and then to suddenly dominate will prove that he is better than Hamilton.

I don't think that a driver has lost a championship after winning the first two races.

Windsor said it's the fifth half-points race. I can think of three of the other 4:

Monaco 84
Adelaide 91
Spain 75

What is the other one?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:43 am 
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mclaren2008 wrote:

Windsor said it's the fifth half-points race. I can think of three of the other 4:

Monaco 84
Adelaide 91
Spain 75

What is the other one?


1975 Austrian Grand Prix


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So Button has already won 2 races behind the SC this year :p That have to be a record :lol:


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Ecclestone stands by late start time

By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 6th 2009, 07:11 GMT

Bernie EcclestoneFormula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone sees no reason to abandon the move to twilight races, despite seeing the Malaysian Grand Prix cut short because of a downpour.

Ecclestone had insisted that the Sepang race should start at 5pm this year, because it would help boost television audience figures back in Europe.

However, as expected, the race was marred by the evening rain showers common to the region - and in the end had to be called off when conditions made it too dangerous to continue.

Despite the chaos of the race, Ecclestone has made it clear that he still thinks the start time is correct. Speaking to AUTOSPORT about whether he had regrets about starting the race at 5pm, Ecclestone said: "No. I just have regrets about the rain.

"I don't see anything wrong with the start time, we just didn't know about the rain. If we had started at 2pm then it would have rained as well."

Despite Ecclestone's stance about the start time, Malaysian GP organisers have said they want to speak to F1's commercial chiefs to discuss the situation.

Sepang International Circuit chairman Datuk Mokhzani Mahathir told the New Straits Times that he was looking into the matter.

"We will review it," he said. "As to exactly what time it will start next year, we are not sure. But we are reviewing the timing for next year's race."

F1 teams themselves have had a mixed response to the decision to move the Malaysian race start time back to 5pm.

BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen said: "We should not have a twilight race. Either we have a race without lighting, then it should finish earlier, or we have a night race and you can go on when you want. Here it was on the edge.

"It would have been on the edge in dry conditions and I have heard before that they are discussing to pull it forward again for next year.

"It [an abandoned race] is definitely not what we want to see, but that is not depending on the time of the day. We had that at Sao Paulo at 2pm too. What we have to understand is that here, generally in Malaysia, rain probability raises in the afternoon."

But Renault boss Flavio Briatore told AUTOSPORT: "This was about the weather. You can control the start time but you cannot control the weather.

"We were unlucky because yesterday the storm was at the same time, and today as well. I believe if it wasn't for the weather, then the timing was great for Europe. Sure, the people watching the racing had fun."


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:45 am 
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Well why doesn't he move it to later in the year when its summer?


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Ospi wrote:
Chances on Bernie telling us all that the time of the GP was great?


Good it would have seemed.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:56 am 
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It was a good show for a once-off, but the whole thing will get kind rather banal after the 5th rain cancelled Malaysian GP.


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I'd like to see how many 'extra' viewers they would have got, in my opinion the majority of people who were going to watch it would have watched it if it was at 8am UK time anyway, they would have only got the "ohhh looks like F1 is on, is that Nigel Mansell bloke still racing?" type of people, put it back by 1 hour says I


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mclaren2008 wrote:
Well why doesn't he move it to later in the year when its summer?


The track location is near the equator so there are not much differences between the length of day.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:42 am 
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I didn't mind the ONE coverage and the BBC commentary, Legard made some really obvious mistakes, but he doesn't irritate the life out of me. He'll get better with time.

The ads were a discrase though, I understand the point of commercial television and that ads are a given, but they should have played the ads that pay the bills, not to tell me what time Sports Tonight is on.


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impressed by the way Button flew after the first pit stops, but Webber provided the best racing. Lots of overtaking, and a long battle with Hamilton


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better than Australia, lots of action on the track, tactical games and errors...
If this will last the entire season we can praise the new regulations


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I pick 1. The sound on TSN's coverage of BBC's broadcast was OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!

yeh that sucked ass ! I bet you can't get RDS is Alberta ? Their picture and audio quality is simply perfect. Even on the SD channel, colors are much righter than on TSN. Hopefully, the CRTC will do something about Speed anytime soon if enough people complain


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Quote:
Ecclestone stands by late start time

By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 6th 2009, 07:11 GMT

Bernie EcclestoneFormula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone sees no reason to abandon the move to twilight races, despite seeing the Malaysian Grand Prix cut short because of a downpour.

Ecclestone had insisted that the Sepang race should start at 5pm this year, because it would help boost television audience figures back in Europe.

However, as expected, the race was marred by the evening rain showers common to the region - and in the end had to be called off when conditions made it too dangerous to continue.

Despite the chaos of the race, Ecclestone has made it clear that he still thinks the start time is correct. Speaking to AUTOSPORT about whether he had regrets about starting the race at 5pm, Ecclestone said: "No. I just have regrets about the rain.

"I don't see anything wrong with the start time, we just didn't know about the rain. If we had started at 2pm then it would have rained as well."

Despite Ecclestone's stance about the start time, Malaysian GP organisers have said they want to speak to F1's commercial chiefs to discuss the situation.

Sepang International Circuit chairman Datuk Mokhzani Mahathir told the New Straits Times that he was looking into the matter.

"We will review it," he said. "As to exactly what time it will start next year, we are not sure. But we are reviewing the timing for next year's race."

F1 teams themselves have had a mixed response to the decision to move the Malaysian race start time back to 5pm.

BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen said: "We should not have a twilight race. Either we have a race without lighting, then it should finish earlier, or we have a night race and you can go on when you want. Here it was on the edge.

"It would have been on the edge in dry conditions and I have heard before that they are discussing to pull it forward again for next year.

"It [an abandoned race] is definitely not what we want to see, but that is not depending on the time of the day. We had that at Sao Paulo at 2pm too. What we have to understand is that here, generally in Malaysia, rain probability raises in the afternoon."

But Renault boss Flavio Briatore told AUTOSPORT: "This was about the weather. You can control the start time but you cannot control the weather.

"We were unlucky because yesterday the storm was at the same time, and today as well. I believe if it wasn't for the weather, then the timing was great for Europe. Sure, the people watching the racing had fun."


well, ask any scientist, it rains every day in tropical regions around the equator, biggest chance to have rain is in the late afthernoon
and because it's a tropical place the race then poors down with one hell of an amount, did those guys never went to school?


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Didnt know about the rain? Is he that dumb, its a well known fact that pretty much everyday in that region has a monsoon in the evening, the stupid old git.


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What I think Bernie's point is, forgive me for defending him, but it bucketed down during the GP2 race and if the race had been run earlier it may have still been washed out...


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P142 wrote:
What I think Bernie's point is, forgive me for defending him, but it bucketed down during the GP2 race and if the race had been run earlier it may have still been washed out...

yes, but the rain during GP2 was just bad luck
the rain during the F1 race was just a daily routine in Malaysia


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What I think Bernie's point is, forgive me for defending him, but it bucketed down during the GP2 race and if the race had been run earlier it may have still been washed out...

yes, but the rain during GP2 was just bad luck
the rain during the F1 race was just a daily routine in Malaysia

It could have rained at any time during this weekend.
Remember the clouds on Friday and Saturday.

The only thing that was bad luck was the fact the rain kept falling for such a long time.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:07 pm 
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yes I agree it could have fallen any time, but the chances that it falls down on 5 o'clock are much higher then at 2 o'clock, you can look it up on the internet if you want :)


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