F1 Medal system

Rudy88 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:20 pm

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FIA doet onderzoek naar medaillesysteem

Als het medaillesysteem, zoals Bernie Ecclestone voorstelde, vanaf het begin van de Formule 1 was gebruikt, zou de sport drie nieuwe wereldkampioenen kennen en had Nelson Piquet nooit een titel gewonnen. Autosportbond FIA heeft onderzoek gedaan naar het systeem en kwam met een aantal aardige feitjes.

Als het meeste aantal overwinningen doorslaggevend zou zijn voor de winst in het kampioenschap, zouden Stirling Moss (1958), Didier Pironi (1982) en Felipe Massa (2008) toegevoegd worden aan het lijstje wereldkampioenen. Nelson Piquet won maar liefst drie kampioenschappen, maar met een medaillesysteem was hij ze alledrie kwijtgeraakt. Niki Lauda heeft er ook drie staan, maar zou er maar eentje overhouden als Bernie's proefballonnetje vanaf 1950 actief zou zijn.

Michael Schumacher zou al zijn zeven titels behouden, terwijl Ayrton Senna van 1988 tot en met 1991 vier titels op rij zou hebben behaald. Ook Jim Clark zou tot vier titels zijn gekomen en Nigel Mansell zou in 1986 en 1987 kampioen zijn geworden, waardoor hij in totaal drie titels op zijn cv had mogen bijschrijven.

Alle leuke wetenswaardigheidjes ten spijt, lijkt het onwaarschijnlijk dat het medaillesysteem er daadwerkelijk gaat komen. Ecclestone liet eerder al weten dat het hem vooral gaat om de extra beloning voor een overwinning, dus een wijziging in het puntensysteem lijkt waarschijnlijker. Het wordt overigens tijd dat de FIA een knoop gaat doorhakken, want Melbourne komt steeds dichterbij...

Short translation

If this system was used from the beginning of formula 1, there would have been 3 'new' champions, and Nelson Piquet would not have a single title.

Stirling Moss (1958), Didier Pironi (1982) and Felipe Massa (2008) would have been world champion. Niki Lauda won 3 WC, with the medal system that would have been just 1.

Michael Schumacher would have kept all his 7 titles, while Ayrton Senna would have scored 4 titles in a row (1988-1991). Also Jim Clark would have 4 titles and Nigel Mansell would have been champion in 1986 and 1987.

This is all if, if, if... but still interesting. What's your opinion? Should the point system remain the same as it is now? Or do you prefer the medal system?

Slam · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:38 pm

I know I'm in a minority here, but I like the medals idea. Not necessarily the medals themselves, but just the fact it'll give a greater incentive to win, and stop drivers settling for second place. I think it's a good thing.

Rudy88 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:54 pm

I like the points system. I think the medal system isn't that bad at all. But since 1950 drivers are rewarded with points.
The effect of the medal system is that the driver with most wins, wins the title. I think you can also achieve this with the points system. You just have to make the difference between 1st and 2nd bigger to 4 points again or perhaps even more.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:33 pm

Points all the way.

Evenstar · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:44 pm

Medals....*sigh* Boooo boooo

noikeee · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:10 pm

Medals would make the midfielders and the backmarkers drive for nothing, and the championship winner would run away with it sooner. They're a shit idea. Continue with the points system and make the gap between the first couple places higher instead.

Gabriel · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:45 pm

I would keep the points, with a slight change between 1st and 2nd, but i would also use the medals not as a way of seeing who's better, but more of a symbolic thing, like in A1GP.

Magnifico · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:16 pm

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pr ... edals.aspx

Speedworx · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:47 pm

julio wrote:

I know I'm in a minority here, but I like the medals idea. Not necessarily the medals themselves, but just the fact it'll give a greater incentive to win, and stop drivers settling for second place. I think it's a good thing.

No it won't. Drivers will only go for a win if they need one to take the title. Anyone outside the top 3 might as well not bothering to turn up!

Medals would lead to even less passing than there is now.

kart99 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:48 pm

Keep points. The medal idea is a poor one.

Alex · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:55 pm

Yeah. At a time when everything and anything needs to be done to ensure the survival of the smaller, less rich teams, the medal system would be a complete disaster. Force India, Super Aguri, Minardi etc. worked their balls off all year round to hopefully, at some point in the season, have enough cars ahead of them drop out so they could score a point. What would be the point of any potential new teams being interested in Formula 1 anymore if they new they knew beforehand they were never going to get anything out of it?

KK3869 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:55 pm

I like the old system thank you very much

wozio82 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:06 pm

I would stay with the points system, although make more points (for example 12) for the win.
Imagine that in 2008 with the medal system Vettel (1 gold) would have been ahead of Heidfeld (4 silvers). Rather bizarre...

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:08 pm

Championships that go to the final round will no longer exist if there is an even number of races. I don't know what Bernie's thinking with that pea sized brain of his, but medals will never work. It will simply not make it exciting and make the other positions like making up the numbers.

There's nothing wrong with points at all. Many great championships have been decided in the last couple of rounds and kept us on the edge of our seats. The only time its boring is like in early 94 and 2002 when Schumacher was always first or second and different people were in the other positions all the time. But this never comes along very often so there's no point changing a tradition for the sake of eliminating early champions.

jdh · PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:06 am

mclaren2008 wrote:

Championships that go to the final round will no longer exist if there is an even number of races.

What?

Burlap Sack · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:22 pm **Posts:** 205

jdh wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Championships that go to the final round will no longer exist if there is an even number of races.

What?

Joe A · PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:34 am

mclaren2008 wrote:

Championships that go to the final round will no longer exist if there is an even number of races.

How?

Ospi · PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:54 am

so 97% of earth think it's a retarded idea, therefore it will happen.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:13 am

Joey wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Championships that go to the final round will no longer exist if there is an even number of races.

How?

Maybe it's an odd number of races.

ixnay · PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:56 am

It's funny. Bernie says it's a dream to see the championship decided in the final race and the final corner of the final lap. Then tries to change the system in place that allowed for the 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 championships to be quite nice.

It's really stupid. Keep the current points system or increase a win to 12. Simple.

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