Rome might hold a F1 GP in 2011 *map circuit added*

Shaddix · PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:12 pm

is Tilke realy the only architect with skills to create a track?

what happened to the guys who build Spa or Monza or Brands Hatch for gods sake

(ok, they are propably all dead, but that's not my point)

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:46 am

Spa was a natural road circuit while Monza was built in a park after WWI.

Tilke knows how to create tracks for today's cars and safety requirements while a past designer like John Hugenholtz created tracks that people just wanted and didn't count on the future.

Tilke's tracks are far easier to overtake on in today's cars than the Hugenholtz tracks like Jarama, Zandvoort and Suzuka and are certainly far more sensible in terms of facilities.

If the styles of tracks are compared Tilke like hairpins, chicanes, long straights into slow corners and limited gradient. Hogenholtz's tracks have lots of gradient, lots of different types of corners and are harder to pass on than Tilke's tracks.

bigears · PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:52 am

mclaren2008 wrote:

Hogenholtz's tracks have lots of gradient, lots of different types of corners and are harder to pass on than Tilke's tracks.

What about the Tarzan corner at Zandvoort, guaranteed overtaking there?

MaTT · PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:09 pm

The chicane at Suzuka has seen a fair bit of passing down the years too

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Mika Kimi · PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:32 pm

Well this isn't 'Formula Tilke' so another designer should be given this opportunity. Already about a third of the calendar is made by Tilke. Now if these would all be legendary circuits then it would be fine by me, but that isn't the case here.

ryan86 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:00 pm

I find Suzuka very hit and miss. It's a great track, challenging to drive and such, however so is Magny-Cours.

Tobias · PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:38 pm

jdh wrote:

noikeee wrote:

AyrtonSennaGODsPilot wrote:

+ another reason that makes street tracks bad now is that no one can overtake in mordern f1 lmao - 83 long beach thats how its done
there was a crazy amount of overtaking!!

That was the race when Watson won from 20th on the grid or something like that, right?

Watson started 22nd and finished 1st.

same for detroit the year before?

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:17 pm

He started from 17th in Detroit.

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Beezle · PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:58 pm

Cant decide whats worst: The track, the scenery or the music.

Shaddix · PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:33 pm

I didn't see 1 corner where it is realistic to overtake

jdh · PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:55 am

Beezle wrote:

Cant decide whats worst: The track, the scenery or the music.

The music is by Justice, awesome band.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:57 am

Shaddix wrote:

I didn't see 1 corner where it is realistic to overtake

That's why it hasn't got a chance of happening in real life and it will be confined to rfactor and GTR2.

SirVanhan · PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:01 am

Shaddix wrote:

I didn't see 1 corner where it is realistic to overtake

Actually the streets are wider than in the video!

Beezle · PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:13 am

Build a Bristol-like Oval inside the Colloseum imo :thumbsup:

Shaddix · PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:56 pm

SirVanhan wrote:

Shaddix wrote:

I didn't see 1 corner where it is realistic to overtake

Actually the streets are wider than in the video!

yeh, but if you put fences and tyrewalls and all that stuff, it could well be as small as on the video
or at least that's my fear

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:14 pm

They proposed this earlier in the week:

Quote:

Organisers of the Rome Grand Prix have announced that a Formula One race around the streets of the Italian capital is 'no longer a dream but a real possibility'. City Mayor Gianni Alemanno led the presentation in the historic city, as it looks to host its first Grand Prix in 2012.

Thursday's ceremony also included a look at pre-automobile history of the historic venue, as it looks to invest â‚¬160m into the sport which created the legacy of Italy's Ferrari. The race promoter is looking to involve 'provincial, regional, social, economic and political' figures in a bid to make sure Rome can more forward with its plans. "A core issue is the strong competition from other world capitals such as Paris, London or Beijing, which have also made a proposal to host a Formula One Grand Prix," Alemanno explained to newspaper Il Messaggero. "They are all dangerous cities, but we believe that the scenario Rome would offer to build a Grand Prix is unique to the world."

The designed street circuit, in the city's northern and modern dell'Eur district, passes under the Palace of Congress and the Palace of the Civilization as opposed to visiting the more traditional coliseum, which is surrounded by cobblestones. Forecasted benefits to the economy include the creation of some 10,000 new jobs in the city with more than â‚¬1bn of financial rewards and an estimated boost of 324,000 tourists visiting. Lap times of the 4,600m track have been predicted as 1 minute 34 seconds.

Is the city Mayor worried, however, over the possibility that Ferrari may not be present as a result of the FIA-FOTA budget-capping dispute? "We can not make a Grand Prix in Rome without the red," Alemanno admitted. "I do not think we could have the idea of a Grand Prix in Rome without Ferrari; I am absolutely convinced that, when we run in Rome and even before, Ferrari will be on the track."

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SirVanhan · PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:16 pm

Awful track. We don't need that.

Fish88 · PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:45 pm

They want that to compete with Monza?

kelso · **Joined:** Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:35 pm **Posts:** 27

Fish88 wrote:

They want that to compete with Monza?

no

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