Formula 1 Heineken Silver Las Vegas Grand Prix 2023

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:32 pm

I believe the race will get very interesting once drivers start struggling for grip on a cold and worn tarmac

I use to say that Baku is the Dega of F1 but this one has a good potential to become that doubled down

Gaara · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:25 am

The 'show' should be on track, not off it. F1 and plenty of supports. Anything off-track is just a distraction.

Juihi · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:57 am

peterohanrahanrahan wrote:

Omega wrote:

Because this race makes absolutely clear that it is first about the money, second about the show, and only 7th or something about the racing.
So people who will watch it for the racing, fear that that aspect will be shit. It should be on top priority, in Vegas it won´t be. So who can get excited for that?

This circuit is wide as hell, 6km long and has 4 overtaking opportunities, what do you mean racing is the 7th thing on the priority list? It's arguably got the most overtaking opportunities on a race track in on street circuit we've ever raced on.

And F1 has always been about the money, they've had no problem excepting oil or blood stained money in the past, doesn't matter if its the US, Middle East or Australasia so why is Vegas any different?

Because boooo to any change in F1 it seems

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:58 am

LucasWheldon wrote:

I believe the race will get very interesting once drivers start struggling for grip on a cold and worn tarmac

I use to say that Baku is the Dega of F1 but this one has a good potential to become that doubled down

Yeah, I'm all hyped up for a last corner pass for the win. At least, that last corner is going to be fun.

webbsy · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:13 am

JJ wrote:

So even on F1's own official channel with game play they can't adhere to track limits @4:50

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:55 am

On the video game it looks surreal, like a fictional track, being at night and with all those landmarks close by. Good job making it a reality.

Now, after the couple aerial shots are done, once the racing gets going, as spectators we tunnel-vision between two barriers and fences and this becomes another street track. At Singapore you don't see much of the skyline or surroundings given how much the track is flood-lit. Perhaps it could be different here with a city already very illuminated.

In the end, what will make it or break it, is how the flow and the racing will feel like. Saudi Arabia's track is more of a success than Miami, specifically thanks to the quality/thrill of the bit between the walls. So I can understand people being hesitant until they see that.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:53 am

pretty amazing effort to get this thing built :flag:

gd49 · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:49 am

Coldtyre wrote:

On the video game it looks surreal, like a fictional track, being at night and with all those landmarks close by. Good job making it a reality.

Now, after the couple aerial shots are done, once the racing gets going, as spectators we tunnel-vision between two barriers and fences and this becomes another street track. At Singapore you don't see much of the skyline or surroundings given how much the track is flood-lit. Perhaps it could be different here with a city already very illuminated.

In the end, what will make it or break it, is how the flow and the racing will feel like. Saudi Arabia's track is more of a success than Miami, specifically thanks to the quality/thrill of the bit between the walls. So I can understand people being hesitant until they see that.

Think there's definitely a risk the coverage will be like the first couple of years of Abi Dhabi with lots of pointless scenery shots rather than focussing on the racing

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LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:26 pm

Coldtyre wrote:

On the video game it looks surreal, like a fictional track, being at night and with all those landmarks close by. Good job making it a reality.

looks like a Need for Speed track, makes even more with the unlicensed casino names changed to generic Vegas stuff

Cartman · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:27 am

ESPN wrote:

F1 clearly felt there was no point doing a race around Vegas without being able to lean into the neon lights of the city's famous skyscape. In November the sun sets before 6 p.m. in Vegas, but it is understood one reason the times shifted back so far (10pm PT) was to minimise disruption and to quieten concern among locals. An obvious drawback of the times from a U.S. perspective mean anyone on the east coast will be watching the race early in the morning (1am ET) - Source

Or because ESPN told F1 to fuck off regarding pre-empting their late college football matches.

Juihi · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:26 am

What I expect to be a cringe opening ceremony is about to begin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNnim_m ... l=FORMULA1

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:34 am

Considering is passing tru the main street of this iconic town, the Hotels and casinos and all that jazz probably had a saying or two about it as well..

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:52 am

A big let down of this event is there's no support races. It would have been a great chance for a showcase under the lights. Perhaps next year they'll work that one out.

Juihi · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:02 am

mclaren2008 wrote:

A big let down of this event is there's no support races. It would have been a great chance for a showcase under the lights. Perhaps next year they'll work that one out.

Yea, it's a bit of a downer, you'd think they could get F2/F3 there plus any local series. How badass would it be if they had an IMSA Enduro race a bit like they do at Long Beach. Wrong time of year though I guess

amq55 · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:30 am

Soul Reaver wrote:

Considering is passing tru the main street of this iconic town, the Hotels and casinos and all that jazz probably had a saying or two about it as well..

Oh, they do.

https://jalopnik.com/i-hope-it-bankrupt ... t=jalopnik

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:10 pm

should had put a joint act with one of the resident musicians in town like Wayne Newton or Celine Dion

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:46 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

A big let down of this event is there's no support races. It would have been a great chance for a showcase under the lights. Perhaps next year they'll work that one out.

Here is an idea that may or may not be suicidal given the layout: a celebrity race

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:50 pm

Coldtyre wrote:

Here is an idea that may or may not be suicidal given the layout: a celebrity race

put them on Clios, they'll be fine

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:03 pm

amq55 wrote:

Soul Reaver wrote:

Considering is passing tru the main street of this iconic town, the Hotels and casinos and all that jazz probably had a saying or two about it as well..

Oh, they do.

https://jalopnik.com/i-hope-it-bankrupt ... t=jalopnik

The interviewed sound like a bunch of spoiled crybabies to be honest. There is no distinction made between the one-off construction work done to prepare the first venue, and the yearly recurring works that will accompany each edition.

They're even defending the notoriously eye-gouging misery-inducing LV casinos/hotels as the "good guy" here, just because it's local and familiar against the foreign menace that is... what, Liberty? another entertainment corporation? :roll:

I can understand people being inconvenienced by any event in a major city, but here it sounds like some narcissistic tribal reactionary bullshit to be honest, from people who think way too highly of their city (and trust me, living in Paris, I know this sort of reaction all too well).

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:44 pm

This one is on a lighter mood

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