Alpine aren't taking this one laying down and have protested the Haas protest
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:14 am ] |
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So the unspoken takeaway here is the meatball flag should be self-policed by teams if race control doesn't show it. Hilarious. I sure am glad FIA solved their real safety and race direction issues by firing that one guy. They're doing so much better without him. |
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| Author: | Karan [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Aramco United States Grand Prix 2022 |
Alpine aren't taking this one laying down and have protested the Haas protest |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:36 am ] |
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3 positons grid penalty and 2 license points for Stroll. This is a fucking disgrace. This is the second time this guy turns into a car in a straight and causes a massive crash (Latifi Australia FP3). This one is worse. What should get you two points are the "minor" moving under braking that Leclerc and Hamilton did to the Red Bull drivers yesterday. This murder attempt should get a race ban. Anything less is an insult to every marshall at the track yesterday that their life is worth shit compared to the interests of F1 teams and not upsetting them too much. |
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| Author: | micha [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:00 am ] |
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Coldtyre wrote: 3 positons grid penalty and 2 license points for Stroll. This is a fucking disgrace. This is the second time this guy turns into a car in a straight and causes a massive crash (Latifi Australia FP3). This one is worse. What should get you two points are the "minor" moving under braking that Leclerc and Hamilton did to the Red Bull drivers yesterday. This murder attempt should get a race ban. Anything less is an insult to every marshall at the track yesterday that their life is worth shit compared to the interests of F1 teams and not upsetting them too much. 100% agree. Absolutely disgusting. With jut a little bit less luck we wouldnt even be discussing the given penalty but speculation about the condition of 2 or even 3 drivers. If Alonso gotten a bit more air it would have been very nasty. If they didnt manage to avoid Stroll's car, it would have been very nasty. |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:28 am ] |
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micha wrote: Coldtyre wrote: 3 positons grid penalty and 2 license points for Stroll. This is a fucking disgrace. This is the second time this guy turns into a car in a straight and causes a massive crash (Latifi Australia FP3). This one is worse. What should get you two points are the "minor" moving under braking that Leclerc and Hamilton did to the Red Bull drivers yesterday. This murder attempt should get a race ban. Anything less is an insult to every marshall at the track yesterday that their life is worth shit compared to the interests of F1 teams and not upsetting them too much. 100% agree. Absolutely disgusting. With jut a little bit less luck we wouldnt even be discussing the given penalty but speculation about the condition of 2 or even 3 drivers. If Alonso gotten a bit more air it would have been very nasty. If they didnt manage to avoid Stroll's car, it would have been very nasty. I've seen (fair) comment that Alonso could have moved more and moved sooner, but it definitely doesn't take away the point that there was no accident if Stroll didn't move to block. I also agree about the penalty being far too lenient, and the FIA once again telling all drivers at all levels that it is ok to block a driver who attempts to overtake at any point. How the hell does IndyCar manage to get their drivers to behave when the so-called pinnacle of motorsport has found it impossible? If they decided to automatically give a 5-second penalty and 2 points to every driver who does it, every time, they problem would be gone within a month or two. |
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| Author: | Omega [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:30 am ] |
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Aah, remember the times when drivers survived a high speed crash, had to pit for repairs, rejoined the track last but fought back, drove as hard as they could, and still managed to get back in the points after a heroic drive? Yeah, not gonna happen anymore. |
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| Author: | pending [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:06 am ] |
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The Alonso penalty is just complete garbage. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:15 am ] |
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Karan wrote: What the fuck? How can they retrospectively demote Alonso for having an unsafe car when they didn't flag him down during the race? This makes no sense to do after the fact. Yes at the time if they had waved him into the pits under precautionary grounds would've made sense. But they didn't. So now they can go back and penalize drivers for things they forgot to do during the race?  When you actually say it out loud it just makes absolutely no sense what so ever. |
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| Author: | micha [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Aramco United States Grand Prix 2022 |
The penalty for Alonso is just to cover their own butts. They should have meatballed him the moment it was clear that mirror was loose. Same with Perez. Haas has every right to be mad because Magnussen got meatballed for exactly the same damage as Perez. They need to stop being naive and think teams will call in the driver themselves because they will only pit when absolutely necessary. And since Perez didnt seem to have too much hinder from that broken front wing, they didnt pit him. Same with Alonso and same with Magnussen earlier this year. And same with countless of other occasions. I'm getting really sick with the FIA preaching safety one moment and then blatantly ignoring it the next. Do we really need another Massa moment before they start acting? But then again, we've seen in Japan that the FIA will never learn and rather blame everyone else...... |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:47 am ] |
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Alonso got a penalty, are you kidding me? This is up there with Monza 2006 and Belgium 2008. |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:15 am ] |
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Philthy82 wrote: So the unspoken takeaway here is the meatball flag should be self-policed by teams if race control doesn't show it. Hilarious. I sure am glad FIA solved their real safety and race direction issues by firing that one guy. They're doing so much better without him. They're doing worse if anything. There seems to be some kind of race control/stewarding idiocy every single race at the moment. |
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| Author: | cookie [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Aramco United States Grand Prix 2022 |
They should penalize Verstappen too then. His left front wheel wing came loose while overtaking hamilton for the lead, check the replays. Ridiculous this, another fia fuck up. They fucked up those races they gave Magnussen the meatball and now they fuck it up again. Best story of the race, Alonso saving an amazing p7 result after almost crashing like Kubica in Canada 2007 is now deleted. |
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| Author: | EsbenT [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:56 am ] |
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Penalty for Alonso is shocking. What's even the point of the meatball flag if it's never going to be used? |
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| Author: | racer612008 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:09 pm ] |
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that penalty is complete bullshit imo meanwhile if it was Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes; they could probably get away with murder at this rate |
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| Author: | amq55 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Aramco United States Grand Prix 2022 |
The issue here is that Jo Bauer considered the car to be legal in Parc ferme but then it was deemed illegal. Alpine are going to dispute the penalty. |
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| Author: | Swede [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:24 pm ] |
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Pure enthusiasm. |
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| Author: | Ospif1 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:30 pm ] |
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Swede wrote: Pure enthusiasm. If being that rich makes you that miserable I think I'll stay poor! |
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:51 pm ] |
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Should have taken a lesson from Glen Dix |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:16 pm ] |
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The only one that was worse than Tim Cook's one was that time when Pele did the same thing but he forgot to wave it for the first two cars. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:53 pm ] |
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JJ wrote: Should have taken a lesson from Glen Dix gotta love his technic, counter balancing the move with the other arm, full of elegance. Perhaps the great flagman in history |
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