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Last year's race

Many collisions and penalties marked the race where Max Verstappen scored his first Grand Chelem

Seasons standings
after round 10

DRIVERS
POS   DRIVER   NATIONALITY   CAR   PTS
1   Max Verstappen   NED   RED BULL RACING RBPT   181
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   RED BULL RACING RBPT   147
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   FERRARI   138
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   FERRARI   127
5   George Russell   GBR   MERCEDES   111
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   MERCEDES   93
7   Lando Norris   GBR   MCLAREN MERCEDES   58
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   46
9   Esteban Ocon   FRA   ALPINE RENAULT   39
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   ALPINE RENAULT   28
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   ALPHATAURI RBPT   16
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   HAAS FERRARI   16
13   Sebastian Vettel   GER   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   15
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   MCLAREN MERCEDES   15
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   ALPHATAURI RBPT   11
16   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   5
17   Mick Schumacher   GER   HAAS FERRARI   4
18   Alexander Albon   THA   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   3
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   3
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0
21   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   0

CONSTRUCTORS
POS   TEAM   PTS
1   RED BULL RACING RBPT   328
2   FERRARI   265
3   MERCEDES   204
4   MCLAREN MERCEDES   73
5   ALPINE RENAULT   67
6   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   51
7   ALPHATAURI RBPT   27
8   HAAS FERRARI   20
9   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   18
10   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   3

Timetables
all times are local (GMT+2)

THURSDAY 7th JULY      Local time

Formula 1   Team Track Walks   09:00 - 11:15
Promoter Activity   Red Bull Ring Taxi Rides   11:30 - 12:00
Formula 1   F1 Driver & Media Activity   14:30 - 15:35
Promoter Activity   Public Pit Lane Walk   15:00 - 18:00

FRIDAY 8th JULY      

FIA Formula 3   Practice Session   09:55 - 10:40
Formula 1   Press Driver & Media Activity   10:00 - 12:00
FIA Formula 2   Practice Session   11:05 - 11:50
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   12:00 - 12:30
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:00 - 13:00
FIA   F1 Car Presentation   12:00 - 13:00
Promoter Activity   Red Bull Driftbrothers   12:50 - 13:00
FORMULA 1   FIRST PRACTICE SESSION   13:30 - 14:30
Promoter Activity   Jet Bus   14:35 - 14:45
FIA Formula 3   Qualifying Session   15:00 - 15:30
FIA Formula 2   Qualifying Session   15:55 - 16:25
FORMULA 1   QUALIFYING   17:00 - 18:00
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   18:15 - 18:45
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Practice Session   18:30 - 19:15
Promoter Activity   Red Bull Ring Taxi Rides   19:25 - 19:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   19:40 - 20:10
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   19:40 - 20:10

SATURDAY 9th JULY      

Promoter Activity   Red Bull Ring Taxi Rides   09:10 - 09:40
Formula 1   Team Pit Stop Practice   09:10 - 09:40
Formula 1   Teams' Press Conference   09:30 - 10:30
FIA Formula 3   Sprint Race (21 Laps or 40 Mins +1 Lap)   10:35 - 11:20
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   11:30 - 12:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   11:30 - 12:00
FIA Formula 3   Press Conference   11:40 - 12:00
FORMULA 1   SECOND PRACTICE SESSION   12:30 - 13:30
Promoter Activity   Jet Bus   13:40 - 13:50
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Qualifying Session   13:55 - 14:25
Promoter Activity   Red Bull Driftbrothers   14:35 - 14:45
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   14:50 - 15:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   14:50 - 15:40
FORMULA 1   SPRINT (24 Laps or 60 Mins)   16:30 - 17:00
Formula 1   Sprint Victory Ceremony   17:00 - 17:30
Formula 1   Press Conference   17:00 - 18:00
FIA Formula 2   Sprint Race (28 Laps or 45 Mins +1 Lap)   17:55 - 18:45
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   19:05 - 19:35
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences Champions Club Grid Walk & Trophy Photo   19:30 - 20:30

SUNDAY 10th JULY      

FIA Formula 3   Feature Race (26 Laps or 45 Mins +1 Lap)   08:35 - 09:25
FIA Formula 2   Feature Race (40 Laps or 60 Mins +1 Lap)   10:05 - 11:10
Promoter Activity   Jet Bus   11:15 - 11:25
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   11:30 - 12:00
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Race (18 Laps or 30 Mins)   11:50 - 12:25
Promoter Activity   Red Bull Legends' Parade   12:35 - 12:55
Formula 1   Drivers' Parade   13:00 - 13:30
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   13:00 - 14:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   13:00 - 14:00
Formula 1   National Anthem   14:44 - 14:46
FORMULA 1   GRAND PRIX (71 LAPS OR 120 MINS)   15:00 - 17:00

another sprint race ugh

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Sprint race at Austria, sign me up!

If cars can follow each other closer in sectors 2 and 3, it will open up turn 1 for racing, not just the two hairpins after

F1 Sprint race: 24 laps.
F2 Sprint race: 28 laps.

Well spotted

One of my favorite circuits, or at least it was. I always like how natural Red Bull Ring feels due to its undulating layout that follows the terrain (needless to say I love circuits like Cadwell Park and Oulton Park).
But ever since they removed the gravel traps from T1, T3 & T9 in 2003(?), the track has lost some of its charm. The final straw was the new chicane built for MotoGP. Couldn't they come up with a different solution? Now the section that was previously so picturesque reminds me of Paul Ricard




Couldn't find non-pixelated image...
Oh well, it shouldn't affect racing, which usually is quite good. I'm looking forward to F3, which has produced of the best feeders races here.

What chicane? I googled it and WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS UGLY SHIT



Is it all because of the Zarco crash? That can happen at any hairpin?

Edit: your second pic doesn't show up JJ, had to paste it. Is that from a real car race? They seem to leave the gravel pits as they are. This creates all sorts of weird impact angles along the straight. They better line the area with barriers parallel to the track for F1.

Yes.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Meanwhile, real riders :

Hosted the image elsewhere.
Yes, you can find footage on YouTube by searching "2022 Red Bull Ring race"

https://youtu.be/b8Gy2wiXIcw?t=962


You're right. I can detect at least two trajectories where a collision (car pushes another car from behind) would lead to crash and bouncing back to the track. It seems they fixed Spa but ruined Red Bull Ring.

Red Bull has been good here for the past few years. This year I'm expecting they dominate the weekend.

The Zarco chicane is one of the most needless corners in racing

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I never understood why there was gravel and tyrewalls outside that kink in the first place, since this track was reopened in 1997. The bike would not have been sent flying and cartwheeling across other riders' skulls if it wasn't for that gravel and ill-placed barrier.

It should be a barrier closer to the track until the hairpin, precisely to redirect cars/bikes into a rear-ending crash rather than people already in the hairpin being Takuma'ed:



Bonus point, if sausage curbs were a thing back then, Sato would've been killed by a gearbox in the face. Modern track design seems more and more like a case of stockpiling bad design choices over one another to fix the previous, and favouring new shiny things and investments and additional works, instead of taking a step back and addressing the source of the problem in a reasonable, cheap, but less fashionable way.

Anyway, I'll stop whinging about this, at least it won't change the quality of racing for car races here.

The F3 race is going to be awesome.

That is all.

Dry weekend. Some rain on Sunday morning.
It's astonishing that last proper wet race here was in 1978(?). Given the location, you would think it rains every other year, but it seems we're more likely to see a wet race in Bahrain or Abu Dhabi than at Red Bull Ring.

from the current calendar, excluding the desert races and races that started this year, the only 2 tracks that never had a wet race on a points paying world championship are Paul Ricard and Hermanos Rodríguez

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I do remember an extremely wet qualifying in 1998. With Fisichella in a terrible Benetton on pole, and Alesi in the Sauber on 2

Yep, fantastic first row... from which they proceeded to do this in the race:

Fisichella and Alesi were Perez and Sainz of that era - or vice versa.

1998 had a great battle between Hakkinen and Schumacher only for Schumi to make a mistake at the penultimate turn, rip off his front wing and having to do an entire lap without his front wing.
Later on he had a penalty for overtaking under yellows iirc.

He would still end up 3rd though