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Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022
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Author:  EAS [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

Russell x Hamilton is starting to look like Ricciardo x Vettel in 2014. The young gun wanting to establish himself against the champion who will not prove anything with a divebomb for a position outside of the top-5.

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:43 pm ]
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amq55 wrote:
Gasly doing his best Bernoldi impression.


actually it's Albon doing a ""Gilles Villeneuve"

fucked Ham over he would have got points

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

oh I loved that race, more results wise than racing related

but let's be honest, if it was dry dullness would be bigger, the only disappointment is not having more rain despite promises

Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

EAS wrote:
Russell x Hamilton is starting to look like Ricciardo x Vettel in 2014. The young gun wanting to establish himself against the champion who will not prove anything with a divebomb for a position outside of the top-5.


No.
That's not so much the narrative that's happening as the narrative people are trying to create

Mercedes have already admitted Lewis and George have different spec of car (higher DF for George, Lower DF for lewis) as they're trying to understand this car rather than push for outright performance

Obviously higher DF was gonna prevail today, they both made great starts then Lewis got boxed in by the accident, George got around it and, coupled with a slow pitstop and an unsafe release into his path, that was it for Lewis as no-one in that DRS train was making passes on anyone else with such a wet offline area they needed for braking
An Alpha Tauri couldn't out drag a Williams FFS

But you know, Lewis is shit, it's all the car, yadda yadda yadda, meanwhile Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances

Author:  iks [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

Mick Schumacher is so mediocre. I wouldn't rate Kevin that highly but he seems to really gel with that team and is definitely making Mick look subpar.

Should replace Mick with Kimi tbh.

Author:  iks [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:52 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
EAS wrote:
Russell x Hamilton is starting to look like Ricciardo x Vettel in 2014. The young gun wanting to establish himself against the champion who will not prove anything with a divebomb for a position outside of the top-5.


No.
That's not so much the narrative that's happening as the narrative people are trying to create

Mercedes have already admitted Lewis and George have different spec of car (higher DF for George, Lower DF for lewis) as they're trying to understand this car rather than push for outright performance

Obviously higher DF was gonna prevail today, they both made great starts then Lewis got boxed in by the accident, George got around it and, coupled with a slow pitstop and an unsafe release into his path, that was it for Lewis as no-one in that DRS train was making passes on anyone else with such a wet offline area they needed for braking
An Alpha Tauri couldn't out drag a Williams FFS

But you know, Lewis is shit, it's all the car, yadda yadda yadda, meanwhile Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances


If Lewis is lower DF then why could he not pass Gasly (or anyone else really)?

Maybe poor old Lewis has just lost his mojo. :cry:

Author:  amq55 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:53 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances

People were literally wondering if he should retire after Australia.

Author:  JJ [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

First podium champagne for Max since Sao Paulo race last year.

Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

If there's one goddamn DROP of rain from now until the broadcast ends I swear I'll go to Liberties' officies and tear up the race contract myself

It probably won't do much, it's probably digital and I'd have to phsyically print it myself just so I have something to tear up, but dammit, it'd feel justified after that race

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

so sweet Toto on the radio

Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

amq55 wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances

People were literally wondering if he should retire after Australia.



That was Mike Krack and it's a common, if not very nice, Team boss tactic to motivate your driver into better performance through the media

Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

iks wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
EAS wrote:
Russell x Hamilton is starting to look like Ricciardo x Vettel in 2014. The young gun wanting to establish himself against the champion who will not prove anything with a divebomb for a position outside of the top-5.


No.
That's not so much the narrative that's happening as the narrative people are trying to create

Mercedes have already admitted Lewis and George have different spec of car (higher DF for George, Lower DF for lewis) as they're trying to understand this car rather than push for outright performance

Obviously higher DF was gonna prevail today, they both made great starts then Lewis got boxed in by the accident, George got around it and, coupled with a slow pitstop and an unsafe release into his path, that was it for Lewis as no-one in that DRS train was making passes on anyone else with such a wet offline area they needed for braking
An Alpha Tauri couldn't out drag a Williams FFS

But you know, Lewis is shit, it's all the car, yadda yadda yadda, meanwhile Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances


If Lewis is lower DF then why could he not pass Gasly (or anyone else really)?

Maybe poor old Lewis has just lost his mojo. :cry:


Because of the wet area of track offline that meant hardly anyone could pass unless they got the move done by around the first kink by the start finish line, and the main reason this race was dull

Author:  Karan [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

lmao at Toto's post-race comments kissing Hamilton's ass. What does that say for Russell then, dragging that "undriveable lump" to P4. :lol:

Author:  iks [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

codename_47 wrote:
iks wrote:
codename_47 wrote:

No.
That's not so much the narrative that's happening as the narrative people are trying to create

Mercedes have already admitted Lewis and George have different spec of car (higher DF for George, Lower DF for lewis) as they're trying to understand this car rather than push for outright performance

Obviously higher DF was gonna prevail today, they both made great starts then Lewis got boxed in by the accident, George got around it and, coupled with a slow pitstop and an unsafe release into his path, that was it for Lewis as no-one in that DRS train was making passes on anyone else with such a wet offline area they needed for braking
An Alpha Tauri couldn't out drag a Williams FFS

But you know, Lewis is shit, it's all the car, yadda yadda yadda, meanwhile Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances


If Lewis is lower DF then why could he not pass Gasly (or anyone else really)?

Maybe poor old Lewis has just lost his mojo. :cry:


Because of the wet area of track offline that meant hardly anyone could pass unless they got the move done by around the first kink by the start finish line, and the main reason this race was dull


But other drivers did some nice passes offline, like Bottas on Kevin (albeit Bottas couldn't pass Russell later in the race).

Guess it was easier to pass earlier in the race.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

Mercedes was always a total dog behind traffic, now that they don't have a good car the task went from difficult to nearly impossible

Author:  Gaara [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:13 pm ]
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When the car ahead also has DRS it seems to nullify the effect of DRS so we end up with DRS trains and the front car doesn't lose out with no DRS.

Author:  Coldtyre [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Rolex Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia Romagna 2022

That's just because Albon had a ridiculously low drag setup.

It's up to the first driver in the train to man up and pass first.

In any case, today's non-DRS battles (or DRS train battles) were much more enjoyable. The pass just ends up killing the battle anyway.

Author:  Omega [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:48 pm ]
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Mercedes should not be in the position where they are 14th and can´t pass the car on 13th. A 7 time WC shouldn´t be in that position. Make up all the excuses you want, there were 13 cars today that were faster than Hamilton. And it´s wonderful.

Author:  cookie [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:49 pm ]
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Russel went from a williams to Mercedes, a step up and he is there to prove himself so he´s doing a super job. Lewis went from having the best car for 8 years and cruising by cars when he had to come through the field sometimes to now having to actually race. He just lost that edge those last 8 years, and motivation

Author:  micha [ Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 am ]
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amq55 wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
Vettel has been shit for about 4 years and spins of any and every chance he gets and no-one calls for his head after 1 mediocre performance, it's just the realities of mid-grid driving these days, sometimes you look like an underdog hero and sometimes a lemon through circumstances

People were literally wondering if he should retire after Australia.


People where saying that in his last Ferrari year and last year as well....

At this rate I'm predicting we're gonna see either 2 1x champions or 1 2x champion on the 2023 grid. Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton all retiring.

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