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2022 Formula One Random Discussion Thread
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Author:  LucasWheldon [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:32 pm ]
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put drum brakes instead, back to the 50's
Author:  Omega [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
outlaw carbon brakes and make them use steel brakes


There was regular talk about doing this in the late 90s and early 00s, but for some reason everybody doing so forgot that Alex Zanardi actually did use steel brakes for a period in 99 and it didn't make a lot of difference, performance-wise.

Well, Zanardi had no performance whatsoever in 99, so not sure if your point is valid.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:44 pm ]
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perhaps if FIA supplies all teams with just one brand and set a limit on brake cooling to reduce their performance it could work

but of course teams wouldn't respect that and see what happens until we see brake failures and they push for a change again for safety
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:31 pm ]
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Omega wrote:
gkmotorsport wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
outlaw carbon brakes and make them use steel brakes


There was regular talk about doing this in the late 90s and early 00s, but for some reason everybody doing so forgot that Alex Zanardi actually did use steel brakes for a period in 99 and it didn't make a lot of difference, performance-wise.

Well, Zanardi had no performance whatsoever in 99, so not sure if your point is valid.


Well, it didn't make him noticeably slower :whistling:

But yeah, there was a feature on it in Autosport mag at the time, and Patrick Head (I think) noted that they saw almost no difference in brake performance, which surprised them because conventional wisdom said otherwise.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:15 pm ]
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Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes
Author:  Omega [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:02 am ]
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mclaren2008 wrote:
Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes

His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:11 am ]
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Omega wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes

His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.


IIRC Zanardi blamed both for his struggles - he couldn't feel the brakes well enough because he was used to the steel brakes used by CART, and the tyres felt like shit compared to the ones used by CART. I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?
Author:  webbsy [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:15 am ]
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As much as I really liked Zanardi....lets be honest, he was pretty crap in his first stint in F1. Sometimes drivers just click with different categories. Zanardi and F1 didn't.
Author:  Omega [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:27 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote:
Omega wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes

His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.
I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?

Bourdais?
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:31 pm ]
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I'd Zanardi is the last of the oldschool drivers, who could work it great on cars with less tech
Author:  Cheeveer [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:01 pm ]
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Omega wrote:
gkmotorsport wrote:
Omega wrote:
His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.
I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?

Bourdais?


Nah, while Zanardi had Ralf Schumacher as teammate, Bourdais had Sebastian Vettel.
Author:  codename_47 [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:16 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote:
Omega wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes

His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.


IIRC Zanardi blamed both for his struggles - he couldn't feel the brakes well enough because he was used to the steel brakes used by CART, and the tyres felt like shit compared to the ones used by CART. I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?


Kimi didn't do well in WRC or Trucks :whistling: :lol:
Author:  trout [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:05 pm ]
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mclaren2008 wrote:
trout wrote:
you realize sprint races helped max way more than lewis, right?


what about Brazil, it helped Ham big time



i was mostly referring to points, and i was mostly talking in jest
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:52 am ]
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gkmotorsport wrote:
Omega wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
Zanardi's problem was the awful rock hard grooved tyres not brakes

His teammate had the same awful rock hard tyres and scored podiums.


IIRC Zanardi blamed both for his struggles - he couldn't feel the brakes well enough because he was used to the steel brakes used by CART, and the tyres felt like shit compared to the ones used by CART. I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?


Jimmie Johnson, IndyCar
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:11 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote:
IIRC Zanardi blamed both for his struggles - he couldn't feel the brakes well enough because he was used to the steel brakes used by CART, and the tyres felt like shit compared to the ones used by CART. I mean, probably true in both cases, but has a driver ever been so dominant in one series and so utterly lost in another?




Mansell on BTCC :lol:

did he gave one of his famous remarks about this crash?
Author:  pimmy [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:19 pm ]
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Plenty of moaning in this:
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:10 pm ]
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Didn't Mansell also deliver a masterclass at Donington in '98 though? IIRC he stormed through from the back, even though he ended up not winning.
Author:  pimmy [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:52 pm ]
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Yes, the conditions were very much in the Mondeo's favour at that event.
Author:  Omega [ Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:47 pm ]
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Every year I wonder if I should take F1TV, but I haven´t done it so far. I read a lot of negative reviews, it appears to often not work properly...

Who here uses it, what are your thoughts? Which options do you use and is it worth it?
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:06 am ]
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I signed because local broadcast is kinda shit and I like to watch without commentary. Feels a lot better

It could have a bit of delay depending on your device, but I watch on the PC and it goes smooth

My opinion: totally recommend it, specially because of the old content they keep uploading
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