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Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2021
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Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:43 pm ]
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That was the most farcial day since the race we all were expecting, Jerez 97
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:43 pm ]
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Toto87 wrote:
so rule for lapped cars wasn't respected right ?

This will end up in court cases


I would say that if this is true:

Scorpio wrote:
Coldtyre wrote:
So, hold on a second. Once the lapped cars overtake, shouldn't they wait that they go back to the queue? It seems like they just let them go and restarted right away?


I remember from the past situtations when they didn't wait for them to unlap 100%


Then Mercedes probably don't have a leg to stand on.
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:43 pm ]
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Fabs wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Only let 5 cars unlap themselves, those behind Max weren't allowed to pass him.

They will protest.


They should. The rules were not followed. It's either all lapped cars or no lapped cars, not just those in front of Max.
Author:  Vassago [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:43 pm ]
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Toto87 wrote:
so rule for lapped cars wasn't respected right ?

This will end up in court cases


It won't. They can't put any time penalty or DQ on Verstappen for that.
Author:  JJ [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
JJ wrote:
And not surprisingly Autosport forum is down :D


I'm surprised this place hasn't gone down too tbh lol

500 less than the maximum number online in 2020 (what happened then?).
Author:  iks [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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micha wrote:
If Lewis pitted he’d be on fresh behind max and won it like that


Exactly. Mercedes strategists were paralyzed all race.

Like the Sky commentators said, whoever wins today will deserve it. :)
Author:  pdukers [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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RtN wrote:
Ultimately, this is all on Mercedes once again shitting the bed once the race goes off-script. They should've pitted Hamilton as soon as the SC came out. If Max stays out, fine. You'll pass him with the better tyres. And if he crashes you off, he'll lose the points.


And if the SC stays out until the end of the race, Lewis loses.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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Toto87 wrote:
so rule for lapped cars wasn't respected right ?

This will end up in court cases


award co champions and everyone will be happy
Author:  micha [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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Gaara wrote:
Fabs wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Only let 5 cars unlap themselves, those behind Max weren't allowed to pass him.

They will protest.


They should. The rules were not followed. It's either all lapped cars or no lapped cars, not just those in front of Max.


Rules weren’t followed all season. Better protest entire season then
Author:  Chris A [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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Kinda messed up for race control to say one thing and do another but I don’t see any reason why the result should change unless there’s some clearly documented rule/regulation that wasn’t followed.

Good on the two drivers at long last finally racing it out cleanly. I was convinced we were about to see something awful happen.
Author:  RtN [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
JJ wrote:
And not surprisingly Autosport forum is down :D


I'm surprised this place hasn't gone down too tbh lol


I have a suspicion that the admins at Atlas have pulled the plug temporarily to allow everyone to settle down.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:44 pm ]
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Sergio wrote:
Lewis Just had to pit simple as that 2 chances.
Lewis Lost championship in the last lap.
What a finnish hahah

The second time he ran the risk of finishing second under SC. Also a red could've been thrown and he would get free tyres.

They made the right call, in all cases, the leader doesn't get advantage in these situations.

The first VSC is more questionable though
Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:45 pm ]
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RtN wrote:
Ultimately, this is all on Mercedes once again shitting the bed once the race goes off-script. They should've pitted Hamilton as soon as the SC came out. If Max stays out, fine. You'll pass him with the better tyres. And if he crashes you off, he'll lose the points.


They weren't near the pit lane and if they had have pitted and the SC stayed out, they just handed the title to Max

Don't forget how staying out gained Max a free tyre change in the last race with another crash that didn't need to be a red flag.
Could've happened today so whatever Merc did they were screwed

The main issue was the FIA suddenly capitulating to Red Bulls radio whining and moving 4 cars out of his way (but not any lapped cars behind him of course)

Masi will not be in his job come the first race in 2022
Author:  amq55 [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:45 pm ]
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Gaara wrote:
Fabs wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Only let 5 cars unlap themselves, those behind Max weren't allowed to pass him.

They will protest.


They should. The rules were not followed. It's either all lapped cars or no lapped cars, not just those in front of Max.

I don't know the specific race but I remember times when certain cars were allowed to unlap themselves.
Author:  Jax_KiBez [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:45 pm ]
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Max deserved the WDC, but not this way...
This is utter b**lshit... I was fearing before race that WDC is selected by stewards decision and not by driving. And until last laps i was accepting Hamilton's WDC eventhough that wouldn't be what i wanted, but it would come fairly.

Now this circus with Masi and stewards decided to give Max a change with new medium tyres vs. old hards of Lewis and everyone knew what was gonna happen.
Author:  webbsy [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:46 pm ]
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Mercedes shat the bed with strategy, then the FIA dumped the whole toilet over them.
Author:  micha [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:46 pm ]
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With the 14s lead I already said Lewis should put for reds. Would have won it all for him with his pace
Author:  RtN [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:46 pm ]
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pdukers wrote:
RtN wrote:
Ultimately, this is all on Mercedes once again shitting the bed once the race goes off-script. They should've pitted Hamilton as soon as the SC came out. If Max stays out, fine. You'll pass him with the better tyres. And if he crashes you off, he'll lose the points.


And if the SC stays out until the end of the race, Lewis loses.


Eh, that's possible, but I'm confident Masi did ascertain whether or not the marshals could clear Latifi's car with enough time to restart. Whatever you think of him, he absolutely would not have wanted this to end under SC.

EDIT: As Micha points out, he had a time margin that should have seen him out in 1st regardless.
Author:  iks [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:47 pm ]
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No point in protesting the result. You can't change the race result anyway.

Too bad. Fair is fair. ;)
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:48 pm ]
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Chris A wrote:
Good on the two drivers at long last finally racing it out cleanly. I was convinced we were about to see something awful happen.


Yeah, I don't think this should be ignored. When it all came down to the wire, they both managed not to launch each other into orbit. At least we're 'only' arguing over Masi's decisions :flag:
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