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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:35 am 
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Vassago wrote:
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Nope, this ain't question of "if" since a different pattern was established under the previous Bernie regime. Either end the race under yellow (Canada 1999) or call it a race with the red flag (Brazil 2003).

Baku 2021 was a F1 version of green-white-checker which only came along with the Liberty ownership. It basically cost Hamilton 18 points. In 71 years of F1 history no race red-flagged with 3 laps remaining was restarted. This gimmick is all on Liberty Group.

In 1988 Prost scored more points than Senna, but the rule was that only the 11 best results counted so Senna was crowned champion. Weird? Yes. Undeserved? You might think that. But that was the rule at that time so argue all you want but it´s not going to help.
If the rule is now to red flag and restart the race, even with only 2 laps to go, then that is what counts.


It doesn't change the main point though, Liberty plays with a different set of rules and Hamilton lost 18 points compared to what would have happened under FOCA and their later iterations.


You're really clutching straws to de-legitimize Verstappen's likely title.

Fangio won a title once because his teammate gave him his car after Fangio's broke down. How is it fair that Max wasnt allowed to take Perez' car in Silverstone? :innocent:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:20 am 
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There are number of people who complain about certain drivers.
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micha wrote:
Vassago wrote:
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In 1988 Prost scored more points than Senna, but the rule was that only the 11 best results counted so Senna was crowned champion. Weird? Yes. Undeserved? You might think that. But that was the rule at that time so argue all you want but it´s not going to help.
If the rule is now to red flag and restart the race, even with only 2 laps to go, then that is what counts.


It doesn't change the main point though, Liberty plays with a different set of rules and Hamilton lost 18 points compared to what would have happened under FOCA and their later iterations.


You're really clutching straws to de-legitimize Verstappen's likely title.

Fangio won a title once because his teammate gave him his car after Fangio's broke down. How is it fair that Max wasnt allowed to take Perez' car in Silverstone? :innocent:


I actually want Verstappen to win the title. I'm tired of the Mercedes dominance. I simply point out that Liberty introducing GWC to F1 cost Hamilton 18 points. Believe it or not but fan bias and facts can be unrelated! ;)

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Liberty wanted a pile up to happen at Baku. Perhaps they could do that if they hire Ricky Stenhouse Jr or Joey Logano to drive the safety car and make them believe they're taking part of the race

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Even if you argue that Lewis lost 18 points in Baku (through his own fault), how many did Max lose in Silverstone, Hungary, and Baku? (Through no fault of his own). Whoever wins this season will have done an incredible job, but I'd argue Max deserves it more.


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