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Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Formula 1 Aramco United States Grand Prix 2021

Circuit of the Americas
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Last race at this track
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2019 - Bottas won and the second place finish by Lewis Hamilton secured him his 6th world championship

Season standings
after round 16
Code:
DRIVERS
POS   DRIVER   NATIONALITY   CAR   PTS
1   Max Verstappen   NED   RED BULL RACING HONDA   262.5
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   MERCEDES   256.5
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   MERCEDES   177
4   Lando Norris   GBR   MCLAREN MERCEDES   145
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   RED BULL RACING HONDA   135
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   FERRARI   116.5
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   FERRARI   116
8   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   MCLAREN MERCEDES   95
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   ALPHATAURI HONDA   74
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   ALPINE RENAULT   58
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   ALPINE RENAULT   46
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES   35
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES   26
14   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   ALPHATAURI HONDA   18
15   George Russell   GBR   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   16
16   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   7
17   Kimi Räikkönen   FIN   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   6
18   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   HAAS FERRARI   0
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   0
21   Nikita Mazepin   RAF   HAAS FERRARI   0

CONSTRUCTORS
POS   TEAM   PTS
1   MERCEDES   433.5
2   RED BULL RACING HONDA   397.5
3   MCLAREN MERCEDES   240
4   FERRARI   232.5
5   ALPINE RENAULT   104
6   ALPHATAURI HONDA   92
7   ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES   61
8   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   23
9   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   7
10   HAAS FERRARI   0


Timetables
all times are local (GMT-5)
Code:
THURSDAY 21st OCTOBER        
Formula 1   Press Conference   12:30 - 16:00
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   15:05 - 15:35
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences - Pit Lane Walk   16:40 - 17:40
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences 'F1 Live on the Grid'   17:40 - 19:40
        
FRIDAY 22nd OCTOBER       
W Series   First Practice Session   10:20 - 10:50
Formula 1   Practice 1   11:30 - 12:30
Formula 1   Nascar Demo   12:35 - 12:45
FIA Formula 4   Practice Session   12:55 - 13:25
Formula 1   Press Conference   13:00 - 14:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   13:30 - 14:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   13:30 - 14:30
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   14:00 - 14:30
Formula 1   Practice 2   15:00 - 16:00
W Series    Second Practice Session   16:30 - 17:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   17:10 - 17:40
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   17:10 - 17:40
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences Track Tour / Grid Photo   17:45 - 18:45
        
SATURDAY 23rd OCTOBER       
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences Track Tour / Grid Photo   08:30 - 09:30
FIA Formula 4   Qualifying Session   10:05 - 10:25
Formula 1   NASCAR Demo   10:35 - 10:50
W Series   Qualifying Session   11:10 - 11:40
Formula 1   Team Pit Stop Practice   11:45 - 12:15
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   11:50 - 12:20
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   11:50 - 12:20
Formula 1   Practice 3   13:00 - 14:00
FIA Formula 4   First Race (10 Laps or 25 Mins +1 Lap)   14:25 - 14:55
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   15:05 - 15:30
Formula 1   Qualifying   16:00 - 17:00
Formula 1   Press Conference   17:00 - 18:00
W Series   First Race (30 Mins +1 Lap)   17:25 - 18:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   18:15 - 18:45
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   18:15 - 18:45
        
SUNDAY 24th OCTOBER
    
Formula 1   NASCAR Demo   08:50 - 09:10
Formula 1   Safety Car Hot Laps   09:25 - 09:35
FIA Formula 4   Second Race (10 Laps or 25 Mins +1 Lap)   10:00 - 10:30
W Series   Second Race (30 Mins +1 Lap)   11:05 - 11:40
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   11:50 - 12:10
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:15 - 12:45
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   12:15 - 12:45
Formula 1   Drivers' Parade   12:20 - 12:50
Formula 1   'We Race As One' Gesture   13:43 - 13:44
Formula 1   National Anthem   13:44 - 13:46
Formula 1   Grand Prix (56 Laps or 120 Mins)   14:00 - 16:00


another race, another Mercedes track

Author:  JJ [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:11 pm ]
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I was confused what that FIA Formula 4 feeder class is supposed to be, but it's Formula 4 United States Championship. Never heard of it. And I doubt it'll be shown by Sky. Tells a lot about the series that only 1 driver out of 37 has an existing Wikipedia article while every driver in FIA F3 has an article written about them. :lol:

Never been a fan of COTA. I mean, it's not the worst Tilkedrome for sure, but just the fact there are at least a dozen great old-school circuits in America and instead of trying any them F1 decided to built a new one. If they can race at Zandvoort nowadays with minimal changes, they surely can race at Laguna Seca, Road America or Mid-Ohio without destroying them. But enough of that rant.

GFS model currently predicts some thunder showers for Sunday. This season has been so wet, that I don't think we need 110% chance for rain anymore. Even less than 80% chance seems to be enough this year.

Author:  rcrossin [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:03 pm ]
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COTA sucks imho. Can't remember a single good race from there from any series ever. There are so many good tracks in the USA where F1 would be awesome. Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta, VIR, Laguna, hell even Sebring. I guess they'd have to invest a ton of money into changing/updating the tracks for safety reasons, but come on they've got the ability.

Author:  Gaara [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:08 pm ]
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There was one good COTA race and I don't want F1/FIA butchering those tracks. Especially Sebring and Elkhart Lake. You know they'll have the bumps flattened out.

VIR wouldn't suit F1 and people bitch about a lack of passing at Laguna Seca in Indycar so imagine the even less likely chances of passing that F1 would bring.

Author:  rcrossin [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:12 pm ]
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Gaara wrote:
There was one good COTA race and I don't want F1/FIA butchering those tracks. Especially Sebring and Elkhart Lake. You know they'll have the bumps flattened out.

VIR wouldn't suit F1 and people bitch about a lack of passing at Laguna Seca in Indycar so imagine the even less likely chances of passing that F1 would bring.


I don't see F1 cars handling the corkscrew at Laguna anyway. Not to mention the speeds they'd be carrying into the corkscrew would be insane. They'd need to completely remove the wall and move it back hundreds of feet for safety reasons.

Author:  Gaara [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm ]
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rcrossin wrote:
Gaara wrote:
There was one good COTA race and I don't want F1/FIA butchering those tracks. Especially Sebring and Elkhart Lake. You know they'll have the bumps flattened out.

VIR wouldn't suit F1 and people bitch about a lack of passing at Laguna Seca in Indycar so imagine the even less likely chances of passing that F1 would bring.


I don't see F1 cars handling the corkscrew at Laguna anyway. Not to mention the speeds they'd be carrying into the corkscrew would be insane. They'd need to completely remove the wall and move it back hundreds of feet for safety reasons.


Yeah, unless they overhaul that area and really butcher the track.

Mind you on Watkins Glens side, at least it already has plenty of trackside car parking spots, but is there enough runoff in The Boot section?

Author:  iks [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:21 pm ]
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rcrossin wrote:
COTA sucks imho. Can't remember a single good race from there from any series ever. There are so many good tracks in the USA where F1 would be awesome. Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta, VIR, Laguna, hell even Sebring. I guess they'd have to invest a ton of money into changing/updating the tracks for safety reasons, but come on they've got the ability.


Yep I agree. Even MotoGP was boring as fuck there.

Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:22 pm ]
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Every F1 COTA thread is the same

We get it, no-one likes the track, what else is there to talk about? :whistling: :lol:

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:33 pm ]
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well, we might try to guess the gap Hamilton will put over other cars in qualifying and race

plus qualifying there is quite late, will be on saturday night on Europe

Author:  Gabriel [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:09 pm ]
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They need to know what's the only thing that'd work in the US of A.

Ovals.

Author:  micha [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:28 pm ]
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The excitement for this race disappeared the day Max turned 21. Always was curious how they would have reacted to that since 21 is the legal drinking age. Would likely still be an anticlimax if it happened but hey.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:56 pm ]
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Gabriel wrote:
They need to know what's the only thing that'd work in the US of A.

Ovals.


could F1 work in a roval?

I'd say they would ditch after the first idiot blocking in the banking cause catchfencing

Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:54 pm ]
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LucasWheldon wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
They need to know what's the only thing that'd work in the US of A.

Ovals.


could F1 work in a roval?

I'd say they would ditch after the first idiot blocking in the banking cause catchfencing


It did from 2000-2007 :whistling:

Author:  Gabriel [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:31 pm ]
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Not roval. Oval.

I'm thinking Milwaukee or any oval where they have to lift/brake

Author:  iks [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:23 am ]
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Gabriel wrote:
Not roval. Oval.

I'm thinking Milwaukee or any oval where they have to lift/brake


Fittipaldi Speedway (Rio) is still the best ever. :cry:

Author:  Cartman [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:59 am ]
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codename_47 wrote:
Every F1 COTA thread is the same

We get it, no-one likes the track, what else is there to talk about? :whistling: :lol:

Oh, oh, I know!

um.......

COTA looks like a big-chinned man in sunglasses with a knife for a head yelling loudly.

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(Yes, I suck at MSPaint. Yes, this is quite immature. So sue me.)

Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:06 am ]
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Circuit of the Johnny Bravo

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:22 am ]
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Here we go again, the COTA hate is taking centre stage. Meanwhile people have a love affair with Baku.

Author:  Beezle [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:50 am ]
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12, 13 and 14 are so unnecessary

Author:  Coldtyre [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:53 am ]
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Baku has character, and excitement. This track doesn't have either. It's bland, boring and watching the cars drive around here is a chore. The race can be exciting, and last year's had a pass for the win in the final laps, but the whole thing just looks and feels like a chore to me, compared to more than half the rest of the calendar.

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