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2021 Formula One Random Discussion Thread
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Author:  Coldtyre [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:39 pm ]
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Omega wrote:
And 27 corners? Yeah, if you count every bump in the track as a corner. I wouldn´t count 11 and 12, or 18 19 20 as corners. 25 is just a loooong corner, no need to put 26 halfway.

Yeah, just like "turn 2" at the RedBull Ring. Maybe it makes it easier for engineers and drivers to communicate precisely, but it's just silly for viewers
Author:  racefan [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:45 pm ]
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Coldtyre wrote:
racefan wrote:
Meanwhile at Spa the outline of the new Eau Rouge is becoming clear
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Edit: turns out this is the plan they currently have, they're testing it during at a couple of trackdays over the weekend. It can be optimised if they feel it's necessary after they've gathered data


Hold on a second, I thought the plan was just to increase the run-off on the left, where it narrowed and spat cars back on the track? They also plan to tighten the corner itself?

That’s what was announced at first, but apparently that’s not the case. Not sure if it’s because of the crashes we’ve seen this year, or that it’s a FIM requirement. I think the latter would be most likely.

They way they laid out this test it looks a lot more like it was years ago
Author:  Gabriel [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:52 pm ]
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I wouldn't mind if they tighten that corner. It's basically flat now.
Author:  Gaara [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:57 pm ]
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Basically re-tightening the corner.
Author:  Omega [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:21 pm ]
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I don´t mind. Now it´s flat out for everyone, but it could make it a challenge again.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:26 pm ]
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It's only easy flat because they can fully cut the bottom curb, and the top one. If the cars were constrained to the track, they'd have to turn-in more, then keep turning the right hander at the top instead of releasing early.

It seems this change would have a similar effect, so just giving it back its layout from the curb and gravel days - well, until they start cutting the top even more with the new run-off now
Author:  Bleu [ Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:43 pm ]
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Omega wrote:
And 27 corners? Yeah, if you count every bump in the track as a corner. I wouldn´t count 11 and 12, or 18 19 20 as corners. 25 is just a loooong corner, no need to put 26 halfway.


Spa track has officially 19 corners but I could easily count five more there if corners were counted in a similar way as in Jeddah.
Author:  Soul Reaver [ Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:28 pm ]
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It's a very fast track with walls close by... I guess all the corners must be accounted so it can be easier to say where the trouble is.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:05 am ]
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the track is totally different now :8:
Author:  webbsy [ Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:01 am ]
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I wouldn't say totally different, but an improvement yes, especially removing the hairpin. I just don't understand why they didn't run that to begin with, or at least use it a decade ago.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:28 am ]
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the last section is so much faster now - lap times are going to be in the 1:21-1:22
Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:51 pm ]
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So apparently Audi has bought McLaren, including the F1 team.
Author:  Beezle [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:10 pm ]
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So VW operates a F1 team using Mercedes engines and an IndyCar team using Chevrolet engines. Interesting.
Author:  micha [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:12 pm ]
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source: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/busi ... la-1-entry

apparently a reputable source as well. That is big, if true.

Wonder what Mercedes will do if true. I can see them ditching them because they dont want to share any info with their rival.
I can see McLaren end up with Red Bull engines until the new engines come. especially if Porsche will hook up with Red Bull. I cant see VAG develop 2 engines for F1 so I can see them develop it together with Red Bull and just change the badge based on who is using it.

Would share the financial burden with Red Bull and Red Bull can continue to develop it if VAG pulls the plug after a few years. I cant see Red Bull building a factory for a few years and then shut it completely and be left at the whim of a manufacturer again. It will be a colab then.
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:12 pm ]
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https://www.mclaren.com/racing/inside-t ... ment-sale/
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:25 pm ]
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this statement says were not being sold although we are actually being sold
Author:  micha [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:39 pm ]
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Of course they deny it. They even ask for all publications to be removed.

But the source is said to be reputable and not one to post any rumor without credible sources.

other magazine claims there is a bidding war between BMW and Audi over McLaren: https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/ ... r-mclaren/
Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:10 pm ]
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It's great to see big marques trying to get into F1...

...but not at the cost of McLaren.

Buy Williams instead, that's just a name these days, I've genuinely started liking McLaren since Ricciardo went there, everyone there is likeable. Back in the day, when I fell in love with the sport (mid-00's) I thought Ron Dennis was an insufferable c**t so I never liked them and they had drivers I personally wasn't big on (Raikkonen, Alonso, Hamilton)
Author:  LuckyStrike FAN [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:13 pm ]
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All of this movements are like boiling eggs for an egg bouillon — the number of cars stays the same.
Author:  RtN [ Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:52 pm ]
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LuckyStrike FAN wrote:
All of this movements are like boiling eggs for an egg bouillon — the number of cars stays the same.


Yes. That's a feature, not a bug.
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