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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:21 am 
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The deal from 2023 won't necessarily be at Losail

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As part of the longer-term deal, discussions will continue regarding the location for the Grand Prix from 2023 with further details to be provided at a later time.


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Qatar has been added to the 2021 calendar.

There lies the age old question. Would you rather have a shit race or none at all?


None at all. Choose the races that have the best blend of action/excitement and heritage, make them the World Championship and all the crappy other races can be non championship stand alone events. Then Liberty can have the American style series they so desperately want.

Formula One presents The Exxon, McDonalds, Apple, Walmart Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi in conjunction with Facebook.

Teams race for a large purse every race, and the remaining 6 or so races are the World Championship.

$$$$$$$ Baby.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:58 am 
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The deal from 2023 won't necessarily be at Losail

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As part of the longer-term deal, discussions will continue regarding the location for the Grand Prix from 2023 with further details to be provided at a later time.


I've read they're looking into a street race around Doha.


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ugh each news makes it worse

how long until they run out of oil?

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What about Dubai or Kuwait Motor Town? Surely there are more authoritarian Islamic regimes that want to join in? Just call Mr. Tilke to design a track that can host a night race. It'll cost only half a billion, so it's basically free. That's like spare change for the oil sheiks. :slaphead:

We really need a breakaway series, that has a 16-race calendar and only races in countries that has had an F1 winning driver.


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JJ wrote:
only races in countries that has had an F1 winning driver.

yes, wouldn't that be very convenient for you :p


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only races in countries that has had an F1 winning driver.

yes, wouldn't that be very convenient for you :p

Finnish GP is a long overdue. Should have happened already 15 years ago. Now with only Bottas left it's too late.

Btw, here's the list of countries that have produced F1 winners. You can easily create different 16-race calendars from them. The only host that I'd really miss is Suzuka.

United Kingdom
Germany
Finland
Brazil
France
Australia
Spain
Italy
Netherlands
Austria
United States
Mexico
Argentina
New Zealand
Canada
Monaco
Sweden
Belgium
Switzerland
Colombia
South Africa
Poland


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You thought Zandvoort was bad...

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This layout is ugly as hell. Looks like a ghost with diarrhea. But I think it's suitable for a good F1 race.


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race could work out if they put the softest tires

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Poland

Yeah..sure :lol:
I couldn't even create a good race track in Bob's Track Builder, good luck with real life :mrgreen:

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JJ wrote:
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only races in countries that has had an F1 winning driver.

yes, wouldn't that be very convenient for you :p

Finnish GP is a long overdue. Should have happened already 15 years ago. Now with only Bottas left it's too late.

Btw, here's the list of countries that have produced F1 winners. You can easily create different 16-race calendars from them. The only host that I'd really miss is Suzuka.

United Kingdom
Germany
Finland
Brazil
France
Australia
Spain
Italy
Netherlands
Austria
United States
Mexico
Argentina
New Zealand
Canada
Monaco
Sweden
Belgium
Switzerland
Colombia
South Africa
Poland

Most of these countries have indeed a rich history in F1.


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we can list the last race win each country had, is quite an interesting rank

UK (the last one duh)
Germany (Singapore 2019) 2 years
Finland (Russia 2020) 1 year
Brazil (Italy 2009) 12 years
France (Hungary 2021)
Australia (Italy 2021)
Spain (Spain 2013) 8 years
Italy (Malaysia 2006) 15 years
Netherlands (Netherlands 2021)
Austria (Germany 1997) 24 years
USA (Netherlands 1978) 43 years
Mexico (Baku 2021)
Argentina (Belgium 1981) 40 years
New Zealand (Argentina 1974) 47 years
Canada (Luxembourg 1997) 24 years
Monaco (Italy 2019) 2 years
Sweden (Austria 1978) 43 years (Australia 1985 as Keke Rosberg was born in Sweden)
Belgium (Hungary 1990) 31 years (Netherlands 2021 also as Verstappen is a Belgium born)
Switzerland (Britain 1979) 42 years
Colombia (Brazil 2005) 16 years
South Africa (Italy 1979) 42 years
Poland (Canada 2008) 13 years
Venezuela (Spain 2012) 9 years
Thailand (Belgium NC 1954) 67 years



counting the british nations
Scotland (Australia 2003) 18 years
Wales (Race of Champions 1975) 46 years
Northern Ireland (Malaysia 1999) 22 years

since Lorenzo Bandini was born in Libya, could count as the sole win in Austria 1964

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Yeah, long droughts for Italy and Spain, not to mention USA or New Zealand. France and Mexico obviously had also long dry spells before the recent wins by Gasly and Perez, respectively.

Domination of Red Bull and Mercedes combined with expectional reliability today has made winning more predictable. In 2014-2015 there were no winners outside Britain, Germany or Australia, and 2016 only saw a sole win by Max. However, admittedly, there hasn't been any competent drivers from some of the countries listed there.


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It's so weird that the last brazilian race winner is Barrichello...


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Gabriel wrote:
It's so weird that the last brazilian race winner is Barrichello...


And even crazier to think the current Brazilian win drought is longer than the post-Senna one. And it's on pace to be twice longer soon.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:33 pm 
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LucasWheldon wrote:
we can list the last race win each country had, is quite an interesting rank

UK (the last one duh)
Germany (Singapore 2019) 2 years
Finland (Russia 2020) 1 year
Brazil (Italy 2009) 12 years
France (Hungary 2021)
Australia (Italy 2021)
Spain (Spain 2013) 8 years
Italy (Malaysia 2006) 15 years
Netherlands (Netherlands 2021)
Austria (Germany 1997) 24 years
USA (Netherlands 1978) 43 years
Mexico (Baku 2021)
Argentina (Belgium 1981) 40 years
New Zealand (Argentina 1974) 47 years
Canada (Luxembourg 1997) 24 years
Monaco (Italy 2019) 2 years
Sweden (Austria 1978) 43 years (Australia 1985 as Keke Rosberg was born in Sweden)
Belgium (Hungary 1990) 31 years (Netherlands 2021 also as Verstappen is a Belgium born)
Switzerland (Britain 1979) 42 years
Colombia (Brazil 2005) 16 years
South Africa (Italy 1979) 42 years
Poland (Canada 2008) 13 years
Venezuela (Spain 2012) 9 years
Thailand (Belgium NC 1954) 67 years



counting the british nations
Scotland (Australia 2003) 18 years
Wales (Race of Champions 1975) 46 years
Northern Ireland (Malaysia 1999) 22 years

since Lorenzo Bandini was born in Libya, could count as the sole win in Austria 1964





Great and interesting list, but you can't count Keke Rosberg to be Swedish since he had Finnish parents and birth happened on a holiday trip. So that goes to same category as Bandini.


And yeah, Finnish GP would be nice, but we don't have anyone to bring huge crowds next year...or for the next five years or worse.

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Finnish GP should be the Indycar equivalent of the Pikes Peak Hillclimb. A race for F1 cars on gravel

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F1 has announced that they're having a last minute replacement race on a track designed primarily for Moto GP and we're all predicting it'll be a shit race weeks before seeing it....

Feels like we've been here before... :whistling:

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Scotty wrote:
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F1 has announced that they're having a last minute replacement race on a track designed primarily for Moto GP and we're all predicting it'll be a shit race weeks before seeing it....

Feels like we've been here before... :whistling:


What's your point? Shit race tracks can have good races, broken clocks and blinds squirrels etc.

But it's more likely than not.


I just like pointing out the symmetary really....

We all thought Misano would be shit, then it wasn't

And yeah, if we raced there again it probably would be shit, or it might not be, who knows

To sum up: I had no point but deja vu... :p

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What are you two talking about? Or have I been transferred into a parallel universe, where instead of Mugello F1 raced at Misano? 8O


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