amq55 wrote:
Omega wrote:
Too bad Sainz didn't get to actually step on the podium.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1196181921182695425
A little different to the last time both McLaren drivers stood on the podium, also in Brazil...
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:12 pm ] |
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reminds me of Minardi at the 2002 AGP |
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| Author: | Omega [ Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:25 pm ] |
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A word on Magnussen: it seemed to me that he tried to provoke the error. Ricciardo was alongside, that wasn't a stupid late dive but a genuine overtaking situation. Magnussen left room, knowing that it would not be enough room but if they touched, he could play the victim. In football they do that too, and then hope the opponent gets yellow. Or even better, you get a penalty. And that's not honest sportmanship. Magnussen did a new "you brake or we crash" thing, except Ricciardo braked (and understeered), but Magnussen just gave enough room to claim that he was the innocent victim. I don't have anything against Gunther Steiner and his team, but its drivers are the two most terrible unsportive guys on the grid. Even worse than Vettel. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
lol grande Ferrari, grazie ragazzi |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
amq55 wrote: Omega wrote: Too bad Sainz didn't get to actually step on the podium. https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1196181921182695425 A little different to the last time both McLaren drivers stood on the podium, also in Brazil...
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
With the new venues that came to the calendar, Interlagos began to feel a bit short and simple in comparison. But this also gives it a feel of an old school venue and thankfully it provides some fun races from time to time. The whole race seemed good and the final 20 laps were very fun and a bit random. I completely agree with the Safety Car on Bottas retirement. His car was in a dangerous spot, whether for the race or for the marshalls to remove it. Amazing drive from Max. He was superb, fast and aggressive in the right measure. Please give this kid a decent car next year! Leclerc's climb was the best I saw from someone from the big 3 starting from behind this season. Ferrari's top speed seems to be a good weapon for such situations. Gutted for Albon. Had his best chance in the season and in a split of a second it goes away while Gasly makes a career-best, what an irony. Thankfully for him, it happened after Red Bull taking their decision for 2020. Carlos Sainz having his debut podium without having the appropriate celebration is the perfect summary for his season. Vettel intrigues me. It seemed he had left his worst form but now it seems it is still there. But what puzzles me is that he is still a fast driver - it's not like other champions like Kimi that steadily got slower - but he makes mistakes you would expect coming from an inexperienced driver. I am starting to think Verstappen is more mature as a driver than him. Such stupidity from a driver that needs to prove himself against a younger driver is a liability that Ferrari cannot afford right now. And not only Vettel is quite error-prone right now, but he also seems so gutless sometimes. He took two crucial overtakes round the outside of Senna S (Hamilton and Albon) and he showed no reaction (compare it to Lewis trying to defend from Max at the same spot). The only time he goes hard is against his teammate as we could see in the worst way today. |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
codename_47 wrote: How long does he have left on his contract? Time for Ferrari to go full Prost 91 on his arse... 1 year. A Prost 91, or a Kimi 2010 is urgent for Ferrari. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:20 am ] |
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codename_47 wrote: How long does he have left on his contract? Time for Ferrari to go full Prost 91 on his arse... Has Vettel criticised the team management and the car? If so, sack him yes. |
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| Author: | thestig88 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:22 am ] |
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Anyone got a screenshot from Lando Norris' shoulder cam for the Onboard camera library please? |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
mclaren2008 wrote: codename_47 wrote: How long does he have left on his contract? Time for Ferrari to go full Prost 91 on his arse... Has Vettel criticised the team management and the car? If so, sack him yes. Neither. But he has cost Ferrari two championships and acted like a petulant child against officials multiple times. Kind of ironic that the driver who once told Charlie Whiting “f**k you” called Verstappen unprofessional this week after Max’s recent cheating jibe against Ferrari. |
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| Author: | Karan [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:13 am ] |
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Chris A wrote: Gaara wrote: Vettel claiming he didn't have much room on the right... There was a brief moment earlier on the straight where Leclerc did squeeze Vettel pretty badly, but he'd moved back toward the middle of the track to give Vettel enough room by the time Vettel initiated the actual contact. Indeed, in the initial part of the overtake Leclerc didn't leave Vettel enough room, and Vettel almost had to take to the grass to complete the move. Considering Vettel gave him room in T1 when he came sailing through, Leclerc could've surely left a little more margin considering it was a teammate but actually appears to be veering into Vettel here. Anyway, right call here by the stewards, difficult to apportion substantial blame on to one driver. 
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
Karan wrote: Chris A wrote: Gaara wrote: Vettel claiming he didn't have much room on the right... There was a brief moment earlier on the straight where Leclerc did squeeze Vettel pretty badly, but he'd moved back toward the middle of the track to give Vettel enough room by the time Vettel initiated the actual contact. Indeed, in the initial part of the overtake Leclerc didn't leave Vettel enough room, and Vettel almost had to take to the grass to complete the move. Considering Vettel gave him room in T1 when he came sailing through, Leclerc could've surely left a little more margin considering it was a teammate but actually appears to be veering into Vettel here. Anyway, right call here by the stewards, difficult to apportion substantial blame on to one driver. I’ve seen the screenshot posted in a couple of places but it doesn’t paint an accurate reflection of what Leclerc is doing, which is settling car with minute steering inputs. Similar to what happened with Alex Rossi at Pocono during that first lap incident. Charles does squeeze Seb initially but backs out and gives just enough room. Similar to Alonso and Vettel at Monza years back. Charles is then moved towards the center of the circuit, you can see that with the outboard shots. He has a marginal right steering input, not to steer right but to try and stabilize the car. In reality this is Turkey 2010 again, and like then I’m putting this firmly at Vettel’s feet. |
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| Author: | racer612008 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:53 am ] |
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what a race Interlagos, please never change |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
racer612008 wrote: what a race Interlagos, please never change Fingers crossed that Interlagos stays in the calendar for the future. The city and São Paulo state government have expressed their wish to keep the race there. |
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| Author: | racer612008 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:47 am ] |
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EAS wrote: racer612008 wrote: what a race Interlagos, please never change Fingers crossed that Interlagos stays in the calendar for the future. The city and São Paulo state government have expressed their wish to keep the race there. I hope it does too |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:59 am ] |
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Yes it's one of few tracks that have stood the test of time. The city might have issues, but the track ain't one of them. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:27 am ] |
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10/10 race Thank you Valtteri |
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| Author: | SBan83 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:52 am ] |
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Vettel: "I thought I had already got past, I don’t know why we touched but that ended both our races.” Because you HADN'T already got past, you putz. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
codename_47 wrote: SC? (Goddamn my stream is so delayed lol) Congrats Sebastian Vettel 2019 Brazillian GP winner lol expert |
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| Author: | Omega [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
SB83 wrote: Vettel: "I thought I had already got past, I don’t know why we touched but that ended both our races.” Because you HADN'T already got past, you putz. I crashed into him because I didn't know he was there. It's like the curious case of Benjamin Button. Each year he is drifting closer to rookie levels of inexperience. In 3 years he screams of excitement and fear every time he goes faster than 200 kph. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2019 |
Fabs wrote: codename_47 wrote: SC? (Goddamn my stream is so delayed lol) Congrats Sebastian Vettel 2019 Brazillian GP winner lol expert At that point he was on fresher tyres than all of them but yeah I dont think he's ever actually won a race when I've put that so the curse continues  He'll bounce back and win Abu Dhabi though 
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