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Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Circuit of the Americas Last year's race Kimi Raikkonen wins and becomes the most victorious finn in F1 history Season Standings after 18 races Code: DRIVERS Full timetables all times are local (GMT-5) Code: FRIDAY 1st NOVEMBER championship ends next sunday |
Author: | Karan [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Easy Mercedes 1-2 on this type of a circuit. No one else stands a chance. |
Author: | Omega [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Boring track in F1, boring track in MotoGP. The start uphill is fun, the first few corners can provide some nice battles, but after the first lap it is fast forward to the finish. |
Author: | Gabriel [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Meh |
Author: | webbsy [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
The esses are just too close together. If they were longer radius corners with more flow they would be much better. Remove the pointless 7-8-9 section for one sweeping corner and it would be much much better. Strangely that stupid end to the lap doesn't bother me as much as the fabled esses section. That section was billed as going to be OMG epic....and its just turned out to be a wet fart. |
Author: | codename_47 [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Hot Take: It's a great track Bahrain, Singapore and Abu Dhabi are the shitshows, at least this place has put on great racing in the past. At least tilke learnt with this one to put in some goddamn elevation |
Author: | EAS [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Scotty wrote: Calling it - worst circuit on the calendar. I'd say Abu Dhabi is worse but it's had a few bonkers races - somehow. But Abu Dhabi bonkers were more down to the slot the race occupies in the end of the calendar than anything else. The only ones I can remember were title deciders or final races of seasons that had already been decided. |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
codename_47 wrote: Hot Take: It's a great track Bahrain, Singapore and Abu Dhabi are the shitshows, at least this place has put on great racing in the past. At least tilke learnt with this one to put in some goddamn elevation Tilke didn't design it from scratch - he only did the buildings and some corner changes He did fuck up Turn 9 though. That corner needs to be moved 100 feet to the left. |
Author: | Omega [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
I'm still in favor of a general rule for new tracks that says, "3 years on the calendar without a decent race? You're off!". Bye COTA, bye Sochi, bye Abu Dhabi, and after next year bye Paul Ricard. Baku was terrible in it's first year and also this year, but it did provide two nice races which proves that the track is capable of something. And Mexico isn't great but has just done enough to be allowed to stay. It would force F1 to choose venues because of the track instead of the possible new market (India, Korea, Vietnam), local hero popularity (Zandvoort, Valencia) or money (oil states, Russia). |
Author: | kals [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
I don't mind the circuit, it just has a few unnecessary corners. This would be better... |
Author: | Coldtyre [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Why removing the 12 to 15 complex? It's one of the rare sections in modern F1 that allow really different line choices for similar speed, and as a consequence had their fair share of exciting side-by-side battles and tricks. I'm not usually fan of tight acute angle corners like this, but credit is due here. Agree on the general criticism though. 2012 was exciting with a battle for the win, but so was that whole season. And any esses are worth exactly nothing if surrounded by a sea of tarmac. It feels like some rando on meth making sweeps in an empty lot to me, they should just admit that fast corners are too dangerous for the times and draw a straight line towards the next tight hairpin. |
Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
the final sector is meh but I believe it could be better with grass runoffs. it's not that fast, that could get dangerous to have fatal crashes |
Author: | Karan [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Omega wrote: Boring track in F1, boring track in MotoGP. The start uphill is fun, the first few corners can provide some nice battles, but after the first lap it is fast forward to the finish. Too true. The first lap particularly sector 1 provides the most excitement and then it's downhill from there. Unfortunately with the high aero dependency of this track, the field spread is far too much to see close action. To be in a position to make a move into T1 or the back straight, you need to be like 1-1.5sec quicker than the car in front. |
Author: | kals [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Coldtyre wrote: Why removing the 12 to 15 complex? It's one of the rare sections in modern F1 that allow really different line choices for similar speed, and as a consequence had their fair share of exciting side-by-side battles and tricks. I'm not usually fan of tight acute angle corners like this, but credit is due here. It's a slow, technical and clumsy section. That's the way I've always felt about it. |
Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
and also makes the lap feel much longer than it is |
Author: | James B [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
It's typical of that modern track-designing philosophy that all circuits should have a mix of fast and slow corners to create compromised car setups, rather than having a variation of tracks that each do different things |
Author: | codename_47 [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Omega wrote: I'm still in favor of a general rule for new tracks that says, "3 years on the calendar without a decent race? You're off!". Bye COTA, bye Sochi, bye Abu Dhabi, and after next year bye Paul Ricard. Baku was terrible in it's first year and also this year, but it did provide two nice races which proves that the track is capable of something. And Mexico isn't great but has just done enough to be allowed to stay. It would force F1 to choose venues because of the track instead of the possible new market (India, Korea, Vietnam), local hero popularity (Zandvoort, Valencia) or money (oil states, Russia). Nah, F1 should take one look at the chances of rain falling at x location at a certain time of year, and schedule races on the dates where its most likely Even shit tracks are great tracks in the rain (sadly we'll never get to know if that's the case for Bahrain or Abu Dhabi) |
Author: | gkmotorsport [ Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Scotty wrote: You know what I'd love to see, F1 race at a track that's got a short lap time, like 45 or 50 seconds, just to see what would happen. Grand Prix of Lydden Hill please. The rallycross layout |
Author: | LucasWheldon [ Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
Scotty wrote: You know what I'd love to see, F1 race at a track that's got a short lap time, like 45 or 50 seconds, just to see what would happen. like the Paul Ricard layout they used between 1986-1990, in the last year they were lapping 1'04", since they put a chicane on Mistral that's the way for France |
Author: | Chris A [ Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Emirates United States Grand Prix 2019 |
I still miss Istanbul a lot. That triple lefthand section is orgasmic. |
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