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FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE MÉXICO 2017

Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez
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As the name suggests, the history of Mexico's Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez is interwoven with that of brothers Ricardo and Pedro Rodriguez. It was the former's emergence in 1961, driving for Ferrari aged just 19, that provided the spark, prompting the decision to build a 5-kilometre circuit in the public Magdalena Mixhuca park in the east of Mexico City. And it was the latter's success later that decade which helped build an incredibly fervent home support for the event.

But the Rodriguez brothers' story was also one of tragedy. Plans for the newly-constructed circuit to host Formula One racing in 1962 were not realised, but a non-championship event went ahead and the teams duly gathered at the venue at the end of October. With Ferrari not in attendance, Ricardo Rodriguez entered in a Rob Walker-run Lotus 24. In qualifying, he crashed and was killed.

The Mexican fans were devastated, but they soon discovered a new hero in Ricardo's younger brother Pedro. Already established in international sportscar racing, Pedro made only his second F1 start in the inaugural world championship Mexican Grand Prix in 1963. He ran in the top 10 until suspension issues forced him to retire. Victory went to Lotus's Jim Clark, who led every lap and won by almost two minutes - a dominance that matched the manner in which he had already swept to that year's world championship crown.

There was much excitement the following year, as Mexico - now moved to be the season's final round - welcomed a three-way fight for the title that was eventually settled, after a race of constant tension and late drama, in favour of John Surtees. The Briton became the first, and to date only, man to clinch world championships on two and four wheels.

Mexico would become the traditional end-of-season event in the late '60s, but while Pedro scored a breakthrough F1 win in 1967, home success continued to elude him as Richie Ginther, Surtees, Clark, Graham Hill, Denny Hulme and Jacky Ickx triumphed through to 1970. The latter's triumph would also be the last race held in Mexico for more than a decade. Two years later, Pedro would lose his life in a sportscar race in Germany.

It was not until 1986 that Formula One racing would return to Mexico City. Led by Jose and Julian Abed, the venue was revamped and the circuit slightly revised, with a new profile at Turn 1 and a shortened hairpin section. It remained a great challenge, however, and not just because of the curling, banked final corner of Peraltada. The high altitude continued to place a unique demand on engines, while the rough surface was difficult to master - and became an increasing problem over the following years.

Gerhard Berger sprang a surprise in that '86 race by collecting his and Benetton's first Grand Prix win. A year later victory went to Nigel Mansell, although the race had to be stopped after the bumpy surface led to a massive crash for Derek Warwick. One year later Philippe Alliot suffered an even bigger accident in practice, although he was thankfully able to crawl unhurt from the wreckage. Alain Prost won the race, a feat he repeated in 1990, sandwiching Ayrton Senna's only triumph on the circuit. The Brazilian would fall victim to the unpredictable surface in '91, rolling after losing the rear of his McLaren over the Peraltada bumps in qualifying. Riccardo Patrese won for Williams, and one year later followed team mate Nigel Mansell home.

That would be the final Grand Prix held on the circuit - which still hosted a number of national and international championships over the subsequent years - until a return to the Formula One calendar was sealed for 2015 after an injection of both private and government money. The facility was comprehensively upgraded, with the entire track resurfaced for the occasion and changes made to a number of corners including Peraltada. The event was a huge hit with drivers and fans alike, proving that Mexico still has a very strong appetite for all things F1.


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Lewis Hamilton 4 time world champion sunday?

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Ricardo Rodriguez was the younger brother.


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LucasWheldon wrote:
Lewis Hamilton 4 time world champion sunday?



It depends. Like, if Hamilton feels like he wants to show up and participate.

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Hamilton is 66 points ahead, that means Vettel will have to outscore Hamilton with 17 points. In other words, even if Vettel wins, Hamilton only has to finish a quiet 5th to be champ.


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dicksplaash wrote:
Ricardo Rodriguez was the younger brother.


seems like people from F1 website don't even know about history

just assumed Ricardo was older because he died first

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LucasWheldon wrote:
dicksplaash wrote:
Ricardo Rodriguez was the younger brother.


seems like people from F1 website don't even know about history

just assumed Ricardo was older because he died first

It's not like any of them died because of natural causes, so weird logic :D


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that's what you get for putting interns to write the stuff that goes on the website

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LucasWheldon wrote:
dicksplaash wrote:
Ricardo Rodriguez was the younger brother.


seems like people from F1 website don't even know about history

just assumed Ricardo was older because he died first


Yes, I know you didn't write that story. Very odd that that the official F1 site makes such a glaring and frankly disrespectful omission.


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Seems like Hartley stays at STR. A bit surprised, since Kvyat had one of his stronger runs at COTA. I thought Hartley had to at least out race Kvyat to be the short-term solution, but I'm glad he gets a serious shot at F1.


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Seems like Hartley stays at STR. A bit surprised, since Kvyat had one of his stronger runs at COTA. I thought Hartley had to at least out race Kvyat to be the short-term solution, but I'm glad he gets a serious shot at F1.



Well, they know what they get with Kvyat, but their junior program now has only Gasly and then there's Marko's favorite, Hartley. It's ironic that so many good drivers were ditched down over the years and now they have to consider out-source options.

Kvyat will still likely get a seat for next season, or the first part of it, if Hartley doesn't deliver. Besides, Red Bull benefits for getting Kvyat replaced, or at least Verstappen does, who'll now win the Mexican GP. :whistling:

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Hamilton only needs 9 more points in the last 3 races

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Look, Hamilton only needs to show up and tell Merc not to fock up his car and it'll be a foregone conclusion. It was after Singapore really.


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In terms of performance, who do you reckon has the upper hand in Mexico. Red Bull had a very strong showing last year already, this year they seem to be in the mix, even at COTA. I can't help but wonder where Ricciardo would have landed if he got by Bottas and ended the race.

Last weekend saw somewhat of a turnaround in race-pace. So far Ferrari was always much closer in the race then qualy, but at COTA it was the other way around.


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The altitude plays a critical role here. Renault has never been able to keep up in the 2 previous years.

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Even though they finally had two cars on the podium again, the last race was perhaps more painful for Ferrari than Singapore/Malaysia/Japan.

Hopefully Hamilton won't be too far ahead in Mexico and we can get a proper fight between the top teams.


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Verstappen will win. He has won everytime Kvyat loses his seat.


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the best chance for Verstappen is to see both Ferraris and Mercedes to tangle each other out at that lame chicane

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To be honest, considering the fact that Hamilton is pretty much champion already, I'd like to see a Ferrari win.

And most of all, a Kimi win. I think he needs to win this year. At least once.


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Kvyat has been dumped (again), so this is a nailed-on Max victory.

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If Sainz out performs Hulkenburg, I feel we might be witnessing the beginning of the end for Hulkenburg here.


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