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Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:56 pm ] |
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2017 FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BELGIAN GRAND PRIX Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps f1.com wrote: Belgium's Spa-Francorchamps circuit is among the most historic on the Formula One calendar, having hosted a (non-championship) Grand Prix as long ago as 1924, and remains one of the most popular venues with drivers and fans alike. Run on narrow public roads, the original Spa layout was an amazing 14.9 kilometres long and notoriously dangerous. The lap distance was reduced slightly over the years, with some corners eased, but when the 'old' circuit staged its final Grand Prix in 1970 it still measured just over 14 kilometres and remained staggeringly quick - Chris Amon set that year's fastest lap at an average speed of just under 245 km/h. Spa did not return to the calendar until 1983 and then in drastically revised form, with lap distance cut to just under seven kilometres. Somehow, though, the circuit's magic was retained. Around two thirds of the lap used the original layout and the legendary Eau Rouge corner remained intact. Only the new Bus Stop chicane on the run down to La Source drew criticism. More than twenty years on Spa remains the longest circuit on the calendar. Its mix of long straights and challenging fast corners, coupled with its picturesque setting, means that most drivers still rank it among their favourite tracks. The weather is still notoriously changeable (it can often be simultaneously raining on one part of the track and dry on another) and Eau Rouge, with its high speed and sudden elevation change, maintains its reputation as one of Formula One racing's most technically demanding corners. Such is the challenge of Spa that only the truly great drivers can really claim to have mastered it. In fact just six men have won the race more than twice - Juan Manuel Fangio (three times), Damon Hill (three times), Kimi Raikkonen (four times), Jim Clark (four times), Ayrton Senna (five times) and Michael Schumacher (six times). Last year's race A huge crash with Kevin Magnussen damaged the barrier bringing red flag. Nico Rosberg won. Season Standings Timetables all times are local Friday 25 August – Sunday 27 August 2017 Practice 1 Friday 10:00 – 11:30 Practice 2 Friday 14:00 – 15:30 Practice 3 Saturday 11:00 – 12:00 Qualifying Saturday 14:00 – 15:00 Race Sunday 14:00 – 16:00 Support races timetables all times are local FRIDAY 25th AUGUST GP3 Series Practice Session 08:30 - 09:15 FIA Formula 2 Practice Session 11:55 - 12:40 FIA Formula 2 Qualifying Session 16:20 - 16:50 GP3 Series Qualifying Session 17:10 - 17:40 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Practice Session 18:00 - 18:45 SATURDAY 26th AUGUST Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Qualifying Session 09:45 - 10:15 FIA Formula 2 First Race (25 Laps or 60 Mins) 16:00 - 17:05 GP3 Series First Race (17 Laps or 40 Mins) 17:35 - 18:20 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup First Race (11 Laps or 30 Mins) 18:35 - 19:10 SUNDAY 27th AUGUST GP3 Series Second Race (13 Laps or 30 Mins) 09:00 - 09:35 FIA Formula 2 Second Race (18 Laps or 45 Mins) 10:15 - 11:05 Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Second Race (11 Laps or 30 Mins) 11:25 - 12:00 going back to Spa |
Author: | JJ [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2017 Formula 1 Pirelli Belgian Grand Prix |
Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo -Track layout is good but ruined with tarmac -Weekend looks dry so still no wet races this season (China won't count) -Spa usually provides good races, but for example 2013 & 2015 were very forgettable. -Everyone hopes Kimi would win one last time at Spa, but that doesn't look probably if Vettel won't retire on lap 1. |
Author: | Justin Time [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:50 pm ] |
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JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo -Track layout is good but ruined with tarmac -Weekend looks dry so still no wet races this season (China won't count) -Spa usually provides good races, but for example 2013 & 2015 were very forgettable. -Everyone hopes Kimi would win one last time at Spa, but that doesn't look probably if Vettel won't retire on lap 1. I disagree with the last point. Kimi' form has really improved during the last few races and he was arguably on par with Seb. |
Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:08 pm ] |
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too bad is a track that favours Mercedes |
Author: | pdukers [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:15 pm ] |
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JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Weekend looks dry so still no wet races this season (China won't count) Current predictions are some rain on Saturday and Sunday. |
Author: | codename_47 [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:07 pm ] |
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Weather predictions on a Monday aren't worth shit When I see rain falling, then I'll get excited F2/GP3 should be pretty decent around here tho |
Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:49 pm ] |
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Justin Time wrote: JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo -Track layout is good but ruined with tarmac -Weekend looks dry so still no wet races this season (China won't count) -Spa usually provides good races, but for example 2013 & 2015 were very forgettable. -Everyone hopes Kimi would win one last time at Spa, but that doesn't look probably if Vettel won't retire on lap 1. I disagree with the last point. Kimi' form has really improved during the last few races and he was arguably on par with Seb. Yeah, Kimi's been par with Seb for the whole time, but Ferrari will f*ck him over because they think Vettel is the next Schumacher for them. Hamilton will dominate the race, Bottas 2nd and Kimi 3rd after Ferrari f*cks him over for Seb, who retires because of either turbo failure or driver mistake just after the first pitstops. And just before the pitstops, Ferrari has 1-2 lead, but they decide to use Kimi as a shield against the Mercs at that point. And once Vettel retires, and the smoke settles down, Ferrari realizes that Mercedes had another strategy all along and now is ahead of Räikkönen because of the shield strategy they had. And on the podium we will have two very upset Finns, one very happy championship leader and the italian and the brittish press are already calling Räikkönen too old and slow for this shit and how great the halo will be next year to prevent things like disagreeing with sir Jackie Stewart on something racing related. Oh and, no rain. Or nothing interesting at all during all the weekend. Kubica ain't gonna be there, Palmer is going to f*ck up in every session or so, there's no spread in the starting grid, except that although Alonso is fast in qualifying, he's going to get a huge penalty due Honda reliability issues...which aren't issues any more, but a standard. 4/10 race. |
Author: | Speedworx [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:55 pm ] |
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Sky+ on most of the weekend. At the racetrack (BTCC) |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:39 am ] |
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Perfect place to end the summer break Also the home of the "Max Verstappen Bandwagon Grand Prix" |
Author: | micha [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:44 am ] |
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JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo I wouldn't be shocked if the halo is repealed before spa. |
Author: | Justin Time [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:47 am ] |
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micha wrote: JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo I wouldn't be shocked if the halo is repealed before spa. I wish that were true but it won't be possible because it will be a structural part of the car. |
Author: | micha [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:09 am ] |
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Justin Time wrote: micha wrote: JJ wrote: Top 5 predictable points by JJ: -Last Spa race with #nohalo I wouldn't be shocked if the halo is repealed before spa. I wish that were true but it won't be possible because it will be a structural part of the car. meh... in 1994 they managed to cut holes in the airbox just fine. Just cut it off |
Author: | gkmotorsport [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:26 am ] |
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micha wrote: Justin Time wrote: micha wrote: I wouldn't be shocked if the halo is repealed before spa. I wish that were true but it won't be possible because it will be a structural part of the car. meh... in 1994 they managed to cut holes in the airbox just fine. Just cut it off The part they cut holes in isn't structural, but on a related note I will never not be amazed that Sauber managed to basically pioneer the 1996-regulated padded cockpit in the middle of 1994. |
Author: | gkmotorsport [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:28 am ] |
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JJ wrote: -Track layout is good but ruined with tarmac I know this isn't what you mean, but I love the implication that the Belgian GP should be run on dirt |
Author: | Omega [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:11 pm ] |
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gkmotorsport wrote: JJ wrote: -Track layout is good but ruined with tarmac I know this isn't what you mean, but I love the implication that the Belgian GP should be run on dirt Eau Rouge would not be taken flat out. |
Author: | Fabs [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:55 pm ] |
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Please Spa, provide some drama |
Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:32 pm ] |
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Omega wrote: gkmotorsport wrote: I know this isn't what you mean, but I love the implication that the Belgian GP should be run on dirt Eau Rouge would not be taken flat out. inertia drift (aka kansei dorifto) with group B rally cars at the eau rouge+radillon |
Author: | Coldtyre [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:20 pm ] |
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I know I'm being an old whiney piece of shit here, but is anybody else bothered by the red/yellow curbs and tyre barriers? Feels too "Spanish" or "warm" if that makes sense. That, and the tarmac, have removed the "forest" feel that the track used to have. |
Author: | Omega [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:26 pm ] |
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Coldtyre wrote: I know I'm being an old whiney piece of shit here, but is anybody else bothered by the red/yellow curbs and tyre barriers? Feels too "Spanish" or "warm" if that makes sense. That, and the tarmac, have removed the "forest" feel that the track used to have. About the curbs, I'm used to it now and actually like it. Tarmac run-off and continuing cutting of trees is not a good idea though. |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:12 am ] |
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Since retiring from the IOM, Guy Martin has decided to join Williams |
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