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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:21 am 
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ban all that electronic either (aside the ones needed for safety)

no more ECU, MGU-H and all that shit that need a bunch of engineers to make work

just a 3.5 V10 with a Xtrac sequential gearbox and steel brakes with no power steering or tire blankets

also pit stops banned, all strategy is to manage the car or go trough the others to win, if you can't, you're a loser

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LucasWheldon wrote:
ban all that electronic either (aside the ones needed for safety)

no more ECU, MGU-H and all that shit that need a bunch of engineers to make work

just a 3.5 V10 with a Xtrac sequential gearbox and steel brakes with no power steering or tire blankets

also pit stops banned, all strategy is to manage the car or go trough the others to win, if you can't, you're a loser

Uh, you need an ECU for any fuel injected car, champ.

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A 3.5L V10 with a carburetor and mechanical fuel pump would be hilarious to see in F1. I wonder if any of the current engine guys have ever worked with an engine like that?

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Remove all the FREAKING buttons from the wheel, specially mapping the throttle pedal.


Put gravel back on any tarmac run-off.


Take front wings away from F1


Ban any Tilkedrome artificial turns, go for a more old-scholl tracks like Elkarth Lake where the track layout isn't made to provoke multiple lines to make passing easier when you don't need to do it, and end up with 10 radius on the same corner, as well as 346 changes in track widht. Just fucking end making this crap.


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It wouldn't necessarily fix anything but it would be cool if there was a track that was built entirely in a depression with spectator areas at high vantage points between the low racing level and the ground level, so you would definitely be able to see more. A drawing would show this more clearly than I'm explaining.


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Cost cap. All other fixes are stopgaps that teams will find a way around, but an effectively implemented cost cap will fix most of the issues listed here.

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ptclaus98 wrote:
A 3.5L V10 with a carburetor and mechanical fuel pump would be hilarious to see in F1. I wonder if any of the current engine guys have ever worked with an engine like that?


there you go, mechanics need to setup the engine by hearing it, not plugging a notebook and setting up the mapping

plus it could get very very cheap

other thing to reduce costs is to set a minimal drag coefficient into a value like 0.250, anything lower than that would be disallowed to avoid aero development

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LucasWheldon wrote:
ptclaus98 wrote:
A 3.5L V10 with a carburetor and mechanical fuel pump would be hilarious to see in F1. I wonder if any of the current engine guys have ever worked with an engine like that?


there you go, mechanics need to setup the engine by hearing it, not plugging a notebook and setting up the mapping

plus it could get very very cheap

other thing to reduce costs is to set a minimal drag coefficient into a value like 0.250, anything lower than that would be disallowed to avoid aero development

At that point you're just replacing cheap ancillary equipment with ancillary equipment that probably would cost more.


The lower you make the entry point, the more the big teams spend on finding the last tenth of performance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:27 am 
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An H pattern gearbox

Ban wings and go back to ground effect

Mandate pisswater 87 octane

All cars run with a spool diff

wheels must be 15x11 steelies

Wait this sounds like drifting

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:13 am 
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-Ban FIA
-Replace FIA with a society run by fans (from TBK)
-No budget limit and total freedom to build any kind of open-wheel & open-cockpit car
-Give invincibility pill for current drivers or hire Isle of Man nuts to race F1 cars on public roads like in the 60s.
-Permanent seat for Maldonado, Ide, Yoong, Mazzacane and Nigel Mansell (yep)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:14 am 
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Stop being elitist pricks.


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Only have the following tyres:

ultra softs: lasts max 10 laps
softs: lasts 25 laps
hard: can last a whole race

give points for the fastest lap, could be interesting to have some action towards the end when drivers that are outside the top 10 are coming in the pit to change tyres


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:55 am 
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A maximum of tea personell, at a race and during the year. It's ridiculous that Mercedes has 1500 people on the staff. That's utterly silly. I know there will be loopholes etc. but some sort of hard restriction on staff and expenditure is necessary. They're like banks, they cannot control themselves. Not many people can. It's like deciding your own salary.

On technical terms i would like way more freedom, F1 is hard on it's way to become a spec series. And all that standardisation hasn't really got much effect on expenditure. Maybe Force India is the only example that a relative small team can race on a relative small budget. Brains should you get to the front, not just a blunt force cash assualt, like Mercedes has done. And RB and Ferrari. I would rather see a battle of the brains then a battle of who has the biggest budget.

Oh, more safety cars, no tire warmers and more old school tracks. And bigger fields.


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Seeing as Pirelli aren't developing their tires during the season, allow each team to develop one bespoke tire of their choice from the compound range.

From races 1-4 teams collect their data, submit it to Pirelli. Hold one mandatory tire test after one of the European races. After the last European race the tire is able to be raced.

As aerogi said have the base compounds have a very very clear differentiation of performance. If a team develops a Hard compound to try and run the whole race they can only use those tires during the race if they need to pit for a puncture or try a fresh set.

And get rid of the mandatory use of one specific compound.


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someone mentioned 87 octane above and that reminds me of something else:

use control fluids in all cars - oil, lubricants and fuel

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Errmmm cheaper tickets perhaps?
30 euro for General admission for 3 days.
50 for grandstands 3 days
100 for paddock 3days
All tarmac runnoffs with gravel, yes it includes Bahrain and Abu Dhabi.
old 7km Hockenheim back.
3.5 V10 engines from 2005 back


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This kind of cockpit. You don't need anything else to race the damn car around a racetrack.
Just replace aluminium with carbon fiber for safety and get that thing going

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-Ban on most electronics and driver aids.
-Ban on automatic and semi-automatic transmissions. Driver gets a six-speed h-pattern gearbox and a clutch pedal.
-Brakes are required to be steel and can not exceed a specific size.
-Capacity changed to 3.5 liters, with a cylinder limit of 16.
-A maximum of 7 personnel for pit stops. Two jack men, one per tire, one to refuel.
-Lower budgets, less financial requirements to compete, and larger grid sizes. I want to see teams like EuroBrun and Coloni in the field as well.

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Extremely restrictive aerodynamic rules, maybe even spec aero.
Extremely simplified cockpit area. Fuel pressure, oil pressure, oil temp and water temp gauges only.
Zero radio communication with the team.
Narrower, bias-ply tires, front much narrower than rears. Tire war.
Four wheel drive optional.
Same engine formula as LMP1. If you don't want hybrid, you can run something more old school.
Significant cost cap.


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