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[CAR LAUNCH] Sauber C36
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Author:  gkmotorsport [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  [CAR LAUNCH] Sauber C36
Just found it while looking for the picture of their new trailer livery 8O

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I like this! Interesting airbox, seems halfway between the earler Mercs and the Caterham. Blacked-out shark fin, and a great paint job :thumbsup:
Author:  siggy [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [CAR LAUNCH] Sauber C36
Looks great. Compared to the 'meh' Williams, this one looks fast.
Author:  Lucasjeha [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:42 am ]
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The car is great and the livery superb, one of the best Sauber had in quite a very long time, but that black shark fin feels really really wrong there! It would be perfect without it!
Author:  micha [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:46 am ]
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25 years aniversary is silver btw.
Also worrying that it's soo large on the side instead of a proper sponsor.
Together with the 2016 engine I do still fear their future. Unless the new owners of F1 work wonders in a short time.
Author:  Fabs [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:46 am ]
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Livery good, car not so good
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:58 am ]
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Another pic has surfaced - this actually gives a good demonstration of what they were trying to do with the fin:

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Definitely would be nicer to see some sponsors, though :o
Author:  Coldtyre [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [CAR LAUNCH] Sauber C36
Still, I want to take an oxy cutter and remove that fin
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:10 pm ]
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look at all those aero pieces, not going to help with following another car
Author:  cookie [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:13 pm ]
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Looks nice, but why do all the teams have a shark fin again? And there would be no more dildo's on the nose, yet both williams and sauber have it again. Can't they write proper rules?
Author:  aerogi [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:33 pm ]
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is the fin mandatory?
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:42 pm ]
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aerogi wrote:
is the fin mandatory?


The size and shape is completely different to the one on the Williams, so I would assume not. I guess it does a good job tidying up airflow ahead of the rear wing, so I guess most if not all the cars will have them.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:55 pm ]
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Where the heck did you guys see the new Williams car? Everyone keeps talking about it but there's no post/topic.

Regarding the rear fin, last time I read the technical regulations, they had forbidden any aero piece located in that triangle behind/above the airbox, precisely to prevent small wings that started there in 1995 (McLaren). When and why was that crap allowed again?

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Author:  aerogi [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:32 pm ]
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so still no (major) sponsors?
Author:  Tamusz [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:40 pm ]
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coldtyre wrote:
Where the heck did you guys see the new Williams car? Everyone keeps talking about it but there's no post/topic.



https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-2017-car-launch-gallery-special-875325/
Author:  ptclaus98 [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:42 pm ]
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I don't mind the fin. If the air intake has to be there, I'd rather the fin.
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:59 am ]
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Scotty wrote:
The cynic in me also says it means they can fit more sponsors or logos.


IIRC this was literally the reason for increasing engine cover size for 2004. :slaphead:
Author:  Coldtyre [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [CAR LAUNCH] Sauber C36
Yes it was the initial reason back then.

We should just let the teams do what they want for performance, and not care about aesthetics at all. I mean, it's not like the sport needs viewers, and viewing literally involves looking at things, and I prefer pretty and simple things.
Author:  SFM [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:09 pm ]
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Scotty wrote:
aerogi wrote:
is the fin mandatory?


No.

But it's excellent for channeling air to the rear wing.

Teams don't care about how it looks when you get a significant percentage increase in downforce from it.

The cynic in me also says it means they can fit more sponsors or logos.


I don't know if someone knows but what I've been wondering. So we had these regulation changes which apparently so far have triggered fins again. We've seen them in the past but my question would be, from my perspective, someone who has no idea, it seems quite logical that the fin channels the air back to the rear wing now why did the early 2000s not have it? If I recall correctly, the airboxes back then dropped quite sharply so that there would've been plenty of space. Was it because of the regulations, because no one thought about it or something else that would've made it less effect (as we haven't seen the fin in the past seasons as well)?
Author:  Artur Craft [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:50 pm ]
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The new Sauber looks so much better than the HIDEOUS 2016 car:
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everything, livery, sizes and shapes
Author:  Echti [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:55 pm ]
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The car in the upper right corner of that picture is actually the 2015 car.
Personally I thought the 2016 car was quite good looking.
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