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Author:  SirVanhan [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
Williams-Renault is coming back next year. Good news.

OH GOD OH MY HEART OH MY LIFE
Best news ever. I mean in the history of the universe.
I've been waiting this moment since... well since Renault left F1 at the end of 1997.

Author:  Slam [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:00 pm ]
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OK no need to shoot your load over it... :o

Author:  micha [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:18 pm ]
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RtN wrote:
Except that neither of those teams wants to expand to 3 customers.




Mercedes already have 3 teams (Mercedes, McLaren and Force India). Ferrari only has two.

With Renault going to 4 it means they get more info back. Esspecially if they keep the teams well after 2014 with the new engine rules.
Mercedes and Ferrari might opt to supply more teams to get the same amount of info.
I don't see the testing ban getting lifted soon and dyno-tests only wont be enough.

Author:  RtN [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:37 pm ]
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How are Mercedes a customer of Mercedes? :p

They may change their minds, but I could see HRT switching to Renault to go with Williams before then (with Renault dropping the 'Renault' team). Virgin may go to Mercedes, or they may go with whoever McLaren goes with when their deal with Mercedes expires.

Author:  Omega [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:54 pm ]
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I'm afraid the Williams-Renault will have the same result as the Lotus-Renault: fun to have the nostalgic bit but no improvements whatsoever.
Williams is the Tyrrell of today, once great but fading away and ending as a scoreless backmarker.

Author:  Karan [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:38 pm ]
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Author:  highgroove [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:36 pm ]
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Omega wrote:
I'm afraid the Williams-Renault will have the same result as the Lotus-Renault: fun to have the nostalgic bit but no improvements whatsoever.
Williams is the Tyrrell of today, once great but fading away and ending as a scoreless backmarker.


They've had successful seasons the past few years considering there budget. last season they were clearly one of the best of the rest teams.

Author:  Eddington mains [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:54 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
Here's the story on Williams-Renault

[spoiler]Williams has announced that it will use Renault engines from the 2012 season, in a renewal of the partnership that dominated Formula 1 for much of the 1990s.

The initial deal is for 2012 and 2013, with an option to continue when the new rules are introduced in 2014.

Renault previously supplied Williams with factory engines from 1989 to 1997 in a collaboration that delivered four drivers' and five constructors' titles. The team is currently using Cosworth engines.

Team principal Frank Williams said he was extremely happy to reunite with Renault given their past successes together - but that both parties were now looking to an equally strong future.

"We are delighted and excited by our new partnership with Renault," he said. "This reunites the F1 team with a leading car manufacturer and complements our new relationship with Jaguar.

"At the same time, we are grateful to Cosworth: they have been a fair and reliable partner both on and off the track for the past two years and we look forward to working with them across our business in the future.

"Our previous relationship with Renault was one of the most successful in Williams' history but we will not allow ourselves to dwell too much on the past. We must look to the future and continue to re-build our on-track reputation, which I am hopeful that today's announcement will help us to do."

AUTOSPORT revealed earlier this year that Renault was keen to expand the number of teams it supplies engines too. Currently the Genii-owned Renault team, champion squad Red Bull Racing and Team Lotus run Renault V8s.

Renault Sport F1 president Bernard Rey said: "Renault remains in Formula 1 to achieve success in a cost efficient way and the partnership with Williams has great potential to add to the results we have notched up over recent years with our other partner teams.

"Williams has recently taken several important steps, both commercially and technically, to update its operations and we feel that this partnership is another important step in its rigorous plan. It reiterates how determined the team is to achieve results, which matches perfectly with our own objectives."

Rey added that supplying multiple teams was extremely important to Renault.

"From 2012 onwards the fact that we will have four partners puts us ahead of other engine manufacturers in terms of market share, but off track it will also enable us to further use Formula 1 as a marketing platform for our parent company, Renault, to try to bring a bit of this association to our fans and our customers worldwide," he said.

"Of course there's also a great pride in reviving the Williams-Renault name. Together, we produced racing cars that are recognised for their technical innovation and it is still Renault's most successful period in F1 to date. It's a hugely exciting opportunity for both Renault and Williams."[/spoiler]


Quote:
"This reunites the F1 team with a leading car manufacturer and complements our new relationship with Jaguar".


:? :? :? :?

Author:  Gaara [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:55 pm ]
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Wait, Jaguar?

Author:  amq55 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:01 pm ]
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That's weird. The only way i link them is that Jaguar is owned by Tata, who did the Nano, which was helped by Renault.

Author:  RtN [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:10 pm ]
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Maybe Jaguar's in on the Williams Hybrid project.

Author:  kals [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:11 pm ]
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Or perhaps it is just a typo that no-one in the Autosport editorial staff picked up on?

Author:  Tamburello94 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:21 pm ]
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I think Williams are providing hybrid technology for a new range of Jaguar road cars. Seem to remember it being reported a while back.

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:08 am ]
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Joe Saward (some of you might stop reading at this point) suggests that a tie up between HRT & Epsilon Euskadi (EPIC Racing) could be on the cards.

Author:  Shaddix [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:11 am ]
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that would be good I guess

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:51 am ]
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Barrichello wants to extend his deal, with Williams team members also keen on a deal
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92859

Is he ever going to retire? :lol: He hits the big 4-0 next season as well.

Author:  webbsy [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:05 am ]
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The self righteous bullshit that comes out of Barrichello's mouth these days is hard to stomach,and makes it hard to believe that he was one of my favorite drivers back in the Jordan and Stewart days.

Author:  Fish88 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:06 am ]
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Jaguar and Williams will be making this car. Williams will provide them with light weight and hybrid technology.

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Author:  Slam [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:18 am ]
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Where's a good 'drooling' smiley when you need one?

Author:  phil1993 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:19 am ]
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JV doesn't like the new rules.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 027440.stm

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