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Author:  mclaren2008 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:06 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
Hungary and Magny Cours often went with Schumacher winning and literally nothing else happening.


and Imola as well

Author:  Ferrari [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:12 pm ]
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alex1369 wrote:
To me if HAM gets a podium this year i would be happy. But honestly im not expecting anything at MGP. Just the usual 6th,7th,8th,9th,10th....places


I don't know why so many are writing off Mercedes this early. I have feeling Hamilton and Mercedes are going surprise a lot of people in Melbourne.

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:20 pm ]
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Ferrari wrote:
alex1369 wrote:
To me if HAM gets a podium this year i would be happy. But honestly im not expecting anything at MGP. Just the usual 6th,7th,8th,9th,10th....places


I don't know why so many are writing off Mercedes this early. I have feeling Hamilton and Mercedes are going surprise a lot of people in Melbourne.


Mercedes will screw themselves out of good finishes by bad tyre strategy

Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:50 pm ]
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They are associated with Blackberry. A sign things will go downhill hard!!!

Author:  kals [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:29 pm ]
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Fish88 wrote:
They are associated with Blackberry. A sign things will go downhill hard!!!


Blackberry, what's a Blackberry? :lol:

Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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I seriously predict commentators mixing up these 2 alot (with their helmets on)!!!

Image

Author:  alex1369 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:54 pm ]
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mclaren2008 wrote:
Ferrari wrote:
alex1369 wrote:
To me if HAM gets a podium this year i would be happy. But honestly im not expecting anything at MGP. Just the usual 6th,7th,8th,9th,10th....places


I don't know why so many are writing off Mercedes this early. I have feeling Hamilton and Mercedes are going surprise a lot of people in Melbourne.


Mercedes will screw themselves out of good finishes by bad tyre strategy


And Lewis unfortunatley, as always destroys the tires in 5 laps

Author:  alex1369 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:56 pm ]
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For me its easy to find out who is who, just look a the T-cams, one is red (rosberg), and one yellow(hamilton), but i usually look at the helmets so i know...

Author:  CoCo [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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the rear wing on the mercedes looks odd and big

Author:  Artur Craft [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:32 pm ]
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Fish88 wrote:
I seriously predict commentators mixing up these 2 alot (with their helmets on)!!!

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCQsB5KCMAEy689.jpg


I have always bashed commentators for mixing drivers with VERY different colours in their helmets, but this time I can't say a thing about anyone mixing this two.

You can only distinguish with a close shot and, even then, you gotta be quite a fan to memorize the details of each helmet. From the distance, all you can see is a blur yellow and it will be tough to get them, by the helmet.

But I guess MGP will have different colours for each one in the roll hoop or whatever.

edit: after many years knowing Lewis, only now, after reading that airplance story, that I found out Lewis is a relative, no matter how far, of ellis' favourite commentator ever.

Author:  StefMeister [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:54 pm ]
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Gary Anderson not impressed with the Mercedes:
Quote:
"At first glance I can't see where the 'step change in performance' Mercedes are talking about is going to come from with their new car.

"There are a few changes here and there, but not necessarily in ways that look like they will be a big advantage.

"One area that is definitely working a bit harder is the front brake ducts, which are more elaborate.

"The nose has the allowed 'vanity panel' to hide the height difference between nose tip and chassis. If you put little ridges on either side of the nose, that can help prevent air spilling over the side. But the way Mercedes have designed their nose it looks like it will exacerbate that problem, which affects the aerodynamics detrimentally.

"The sidepods have a raised outer edge. It's aimed at getting air to the rear but it creates lift, and then there are turning vanes on top to reduce the lift. So that confuses me a little.

"They are trying to use the exhaust for aerodynamic effect at the back, but there is an awful lot of bodywork back there which will block the airflow and reduce the effectiveness of the 'coke-bottle' shape, which is what gives overall downforce, as opposed to the on-throttle downforce you get from the exhausts.

"Unlike the McLaren, which looked a step forward in every area, I wouldn't necessarily say I'm seeing anything too exciting about the Mercedes."


He didn't see any big steps on the Red Bull either:
Quote:
"I was expecting the new Red Bull to be more different from last year's than it is.

"They have retained the slim nose from last year - it has a very small cross-sectional area. That is important for overall downforce as the thicker the nose the bigger the volume of air it displaces, and the more it detracts from the effectiveness of the front wing.

"The front wing is similar to the one with which they ended last year although the mounting points have been moved to ensure they pass the tougher deflection tests this year. And the endplates are not extra exciting. I expected them to do more work there.

"They have retained push-rod front suspension, rather than following Ferrari down the pull-rod route, which has a marginal aerodynamic advantage.

"The leading edge of the sidepods are quite narrow. That will work with a revised rear bodywork, which appears to end earlier than last year's, to enhance the airflow through the critical 'coke-bottle' area at the rear and increase downforce.

"Overall, I'm not seeing the steps forward I saw on the McLaren, on which everywhere you looked you thought: 'Yep, that's better.' On the Red Bull, that's less so. More of it looks the same."

Author:  Shaddix [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:13 pm ]
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Ofcourse the frontwing looks the same, they probably put a brand new one on it when they actually hit the track...

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:25 pm ]
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alex1369 wrote:
And Lewis unfortunatley, as always destroys the tires in 5 laps


This is one of the biggest myths in Formula One. Lewis does not destroy his tyres at a higher rate than his rivals.

Author:  alex1369 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:34 pm ]
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Well sometimes he destoys them, sometimes not...

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:40 pm ]
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alex1369 wrote:
Well sometimes he destoys them, sometimes not...


A bit like every other driver then.

Were there races in 2012 where he ruined the tyres?

Author:  ellis [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:06 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
alex1369 wrote:
And Lewis unfortunatley, as always destroys the tires in 5 laps


This is one of the biggest myths in Formula One. Lewis does not destroy his tyres at a higher rate than his rivals.


Really? Because every week we hear Lewis on the radio complaining he has no tyres left, long before others. A couple of races he even did extra stops.

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:16 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
alex1369 wrote:
And Lewis unfortunatley, as always destroys the tires in 5 laps


This is one of the biggest myths in Formula One. Lewis does not destroy his tyres at a higher rate than his rivals.


Really? Because every week we hear Lewis on the radio complaining he has no tyres left, long before others. A couple of races he even did extra stops.


Which races? IIRC there was Valencia, where quite a few struggled and McLaren struggled anyway. And Korea, when the rollbar went and made the steering horrible.

Author:  ellis [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:22 pm ]
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I'll rewatch the review later, they mentioned it. It's certainly no myth. Lewis kills tyres faster than most drivers on the grid and is a lot more vocal about it. He's always calling for early pit stops, which is mad given he should know the strategy from team meanings.

Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:36 pm ]
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It appears that Jules Bianchi will be testing the VJM06 on Friday.

Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:37 pm ]
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Fuck yeah!!! He is the only cool option for that seat.

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