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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:23 pm 
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good news from Austin, its now likely the council will approve the $4million sponsorship


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Lol at the Daily Mail "Former F1 champion David Coulthard"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive ... -ever.html


Is it just me or does clicking enlarge merely replace the picture with one around the same size leaving the text too small to read?


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Kenny from the Block is going to test an F1 car
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92276

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What is so special about the dude?


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Fish88 wrote:
What is so special about the dude?



check at 5:40, great stuff :p


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Fish88 wrote:
What is so special about the dude?


Apart from the fact he has the age to be your father, nothing.


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He wears big caps.


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Fish88 wrote:
What is so special about the dude?


He got overhyped for gymkhana and ended up getting mad sponsor names. That's about it, oh and he drives rally medicorely compared to the top ones. Nothing special at all.


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After yesterday's race, HRT has jumped up to 11th in the WCC, courtesy of a 13th place for Liuzzi :thumbsup:

Also, first pics of Kubica since the accident
http://www.fakt.pl/Kubica-wraca-do-zdro ... 167,1.html

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Fuck his right arm is a mess. Really do hope he will be back to 100% come next season.


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Autosport linking Hamilton to Red Bull from 2013
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92327

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Autosport linking Hamilton to Red Bull from 2013
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92327

I think RedBull is smart enough to not do that
it would only end in tears as long as Vettel is in that team

RedBull has loads of options, they can either prepare Ricciardo or Vergne (who I estimate higher than Ricciardo tbh) in the STR in 2012 and promote one of them to RBR in 2013
or they can just look at the young guns who are currently in lower teams like Kobayashi, Perez, Hulkenberg,...

I can't see why they have to bring Lewis in, unless Vettel moves to an other team in 2013


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:08 am 
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I'm putting this here, because I don't think a brilliant race like the Canadian GP deserves to have it's thread polluted with arguments. But there are 2 points which once again need raised.

First is DRS. And I know I'm bound to get some whiny members who don't care about the sporting aspect, and just want OMG PASS and ridiculous crashes, but DRS needs sorted. It ruined a potentially great battle at Montreal but just giving passes away too easily. It's easy to look at it and say that it perhaps aided us in getting Jenson to the lead, but that is purely circumstantial. Had Vettel used the system to simple ease passed Button for the lead, can you imagine the shit storm we'd have on this forum? I'm not against DRS as a system, but I don't think it should be simply giving passes away, but rather allowing the chasing car the opportunity to pass. Having 2 zones confuses me, because it allowed a car to pass, and then even worse, accelerate away with ease, thus making it impossible for the car which is now behind to fight back. It really needs toned down. I'd argue that the Pirelli tyres have produced much better racing than DRS has.

Secondly, these penalties from the stewards need consistency. Jenson was involved in 2 accidents (arguably both his fault, but that is another discussion), which resulted in 2 retirements with no penalty. Meanwhile di Resta takes off his own front wing and only harms himself, and is given a stop and go. I'm not suggesting Jenson should be penalised - I don't think you should penalise for racing accidents, it is bad for the racing) - but if he isn't then why are others for less significant crimes? Had Paul taken out Heidfeld then possibly a penalty, but for damaging your own car, and nothing else? Seems stupid to me. Also, when Heidfeld hit Kob, had his car not nomnomed it's own front wing, would he have penalised too? I thought a driver steward would have helped the consistency, but it's just as bad as before in a single weekend, nevermind others.


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Scotty wrote:
@Ellis; Jenson was clearly at (majority) fault in the collision with Lewis, he looked in his mirrors, saw him coming, swerved off the racing line too late and too aggressively (which no-one around me seemed to agree with this morning) but the one with Alonso is near enough to 50-50.


I pretty much agree with your take on it. I think Jenson was to blame for the accident with Lewis, and Alonsos one, the cars just won't fit through there. But my real problem with it is no penalties for him taking out other cars (his fault or not), and others get penalised for taking themselves out. It's just daft.

And again, someone is bound to not bother reading the thread and suggest I want Jenson penalised. I don't. I just don't want others penalised either. It's a matter of time until one of these inconsistent decisions decides a race, or god forbid a championship.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:42 am 
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You've made some good points there. I don't know... am I the only one who gets the impression that had Jenson finished, say, 7th or something then he might have ended up getting that Alonso penalty? Perhaps the stewards ducked it because he won the race so dramatically.

Di Resta was unlucky though. Seems like at the moment the stewards are struggling to work out what defines a 'racing accident'.


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We are getting into a dodgy precedent, because there was inconsistency this weekend and there has been for a lot of the season.

I seriously don't understand Di Resta's penalty at all

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I don't think you are MaTT. The FIA have learned that if you change the race winner through a post race penalty, it ruins the credibility of the race. But, as Ellis has said, no penalties should be given for racing incidents. Period. They should be only for really stupid moves. Di Resta suffered enough with needing a new front wing, the drive through was just harsh.


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Yup Di Resta's was baffling, Heidfeld continued on his merry way with no issue and Paul screwed himself out of a potential top five position if not more. Like Alonso in Sepang, if you've already harmed yourself why does the FIA need to dish out an additional wrist slapping? Especially when there are incidents [Button yesterday] which don't get any sort of punishment when you could argue using the FIA's logic their just as clear cut and easy to assign blame.

The only thing Di Resta was guilty of was not being more forceful but given the conditions it was understandable. Also frustrating because Paul has generally been making Sutil look incredibly poor but the points table doesn't show it.


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nea wrote:
But, as Ellis has said, no penalties should be given for racing incidents. Period.


This.

Equally though, you do need a fine line. Because if you don't have penalties, you're going to get drivers ramming each other off, a la BTCC

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