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Shaddix
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2 north american races back to back...yay!

F1 at decent hours :D

I actually like those hours

it's in the early evening over here, ideal to finish a laid back weekend
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Yeah US races are starting on the best time possible for Europa
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Oh, and finally Australia is not on the weekend the clocks go back. No more confusion! :D

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Shaddix wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
2 north american races back to back...yay!

F1 at decent hours :D

I actually like those hours

it's in the early evening over here, ideal to finish a laid back weekend


To me it's like any european weekend for you, euros.
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I assume Bahrain pay big dollars to get the opening spot? Because other than that there is no reason why it would be a good one, let alone even a spot on the calendar. I wish Albert Park would get it back one day.
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Back to back ones

11/03 BHR Bahrain
18/03 AUS Australia

01/04 MYS Malaysia
08/04 CHN China

20/05 ESP Spain
27/05 MCO Monaco

10/06 CAN Canada
17/06 USA United States

29/07 DEU Germany
05/08 HUN Hungary

02/09 BEL Belgium
09/09 ITA Italy

Bahrain > Australia is a biggie in 1 week

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Yeaa, Bahrain to Australia doesn't make sense as a back to back.

Of course, hopefully Bahrain gets canned.
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US GP in June? Oh my. There had better be covered grandstands, otherwise attendance is going to be very questionable. I don't know many people willing to suffer 100+ degree temps in the middle of Texas for a GP.

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Gaara wrote:
Yeaa, Bahrain to Australia doesn't make sense as a back to back.

Of course, hopefully Bahrain gets canned.



Good way to piss off the teams even more...
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Wickens is Virgin's test and reserve driver

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phil1993 wrote:
Wickens is Virgin's test and reserve driver

nothing surprising with that, it was obvious that he would take that role up on him if needed
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Motor Sport calls on FOTA to boycott the Bahrain GP. Rescheduling this race is an outrage. It must not take place.


Thats Motor Sport magazine btw.

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It would be extremely hypocritical not to go there if the government and organisers are willing to host the race and can guarantee the event security.

F1 has always been to countries where there are human rights abuses, or extremely poor people, or similar issues. They go to China. They race in Brazil a few miles away from neighbourhoods where there are outrageous crime rates. Even apartheid didn't stop them from going to SA.

Social problems in Bahrain existed when F1 came there. Nothing changed this year. Sure, it has exploded into awful unrest and people died, but people were not happy before that, they were oppressed, living a miserable life in silence, all while F1 was happily lapping in Sakhir.

I am not saying we should accept that. But it would be extremely weak from the teams to start going emotional right now after shamelessly racing around for years, there and elsewhere, without asking questions.
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coldtyre wrote:
Nothing changed this year. Sure, it has exploded into awful unrest and people died


:lol: :lol:

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GP date changes bad especially for fans planning IndiaGP, costs+time off. Racing til Christmas, develop+test new car, 21 race 2012. Too much. Read copiously both sides of Bahrain story. Talked to friends+associates who live there. Thought long+hard about it. Mistake to reinstate GP


Raises a good point. About 6 weeks between the season finale now & the first test of 2012. And then 21 races. Season needs to be early March to mid-November.

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phil1993 wrote:
Back to back ones

11/03 BHR Bahrain
18/03 AUS Australia

01/04 MYS Malaysia
08/04 CHN China

20/05 ESP Spain
27/05 MCO Monaco

10/06 CAN Canada
17/06 USA United States

29/07 DEU Germany
05/08 HUN Hungary

02/09 BEL Belgium
09/09 ITA Italy

Bahrain > Australia is a biggie in 1 week


And when Turkey will be skipped, we have a month of non-racing, while we got 6 back-to-backs.
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Just heard the terrible news about Bahrain. One can only hope that they do a U-turn. It might happen.. it's not unknown for the FIA to go back on a decision soon after they made one.
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coldtyre wrote:
It would be extremely hypocritical not to go there if the government and organisers are willing to host the race and can guarantee the event security.


The simplest of facts is that they cannot guarantee security.

coldtyre wrote:
F1 has always been to countries where there are human rights abuses, or extremely poor people, or similar issues. They go to China. They race in Brazil a few miles away from neighbourhoods where there are outrageous crime rates. Even apartheid didn't stop them from going to SA.


Yes, they do go to China. And Abu Dhabi. But neither of those countries has had their police or armed forces shoot dead protesters in public in recent past, or have harrassed medical personnel trying to treat those injured. The fact that Interlagos is surrounded by slums is neither here nor there.

coldtyre wrote:
Social problems in Bahrain existed when F1 came there. Nothing changed this year. Sure, it has exploded into awful unrest and people died, but people were not happy before that, they were oppressed, living a miserable life in silence, all while F1 was happily lapping in Sakhir.


The problem that most people take issue with is not the social problems within Bahrain. The problem is with the government's response to the publicisation of those issues.

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I am not saying we should accept that. But it would be extremely weak from the teams to start going emotional right now after shamelessly racing around for years, there and elsewhere, without asking questions.


This is a unique, first-time situation for most of the teams, and certainly for most of those individuals now in charge of running them. Their stance on the matter has always been very clear; they don't want to race, they didn't want Bernie to keep trying to reschedule it, and they will only race if the FIA forces them to.

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Dear Bahrain,

Stop throwing your money around and never host an F1 race ever again. Feel free to take Abu Dhabi with you.

Yours sincerly, me.


Seriously though. I'd hate to see anybody hurt over the race weekend, but I kind of want something to happen so that everybody can say "I told you so." Maybe just some blockades or protestors on the track or something.


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TBH, I'd love to see some teams boycotting the race, but not all of them. Unlikely though, with all the FOTA stuff.

Imagine an HRT on the podium :icame:
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And it's great news for people who have booked time off work and flights to India.
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