And all dealt with under a yellow flag?
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
The Berger crash shows how long we've come in terms of layout and speed. Nowadays, you touch that wall, you end up 30 meters further down the road with a sizeable impact. Further old-school insanity: Hakkinen at La Piscine 2. Imagine their faces back then if you showed them the hard crashes we have there now: Front wheel completely gone from a small crash at Anthony Noguès: |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
And all dealt with under a yellow flag?
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| Author: | JJ [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
Gaara wrote: And all dealt with under a yellow flag? As late as 2014  https://www.darcyf1.com/download.php?z=36064 Wait a second, is that Bianchi passing Sutil's car? |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
JJ wrote: Yeah, those TBK.FAMEFLAME.DK channels are all mine. But I have kept the original filenames, so they are not always easily to be found, and even YouTube algorithm can't find them if they are named like 2001_f1_unknown_montecarlo.asf or IRV_MON_02.mpeg. And like you said, YouTube emphasizes new videos and Formula 1's official channel in the search, so if you have "Crash" and "Monaco" as two of the keywords, Mick's crash and 2022 Race Highlight will be among the top 10 results. Incidentally Is there a reason there is so many of them, instead of just one channel with all the videos on? I can only find videos on YT by using the search filters. Searching either by least popular or most recent results usually brings some gems, especially if you're looking for fan videos recorded at the weekend's racing events |
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| Author: | JJ [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
codename_47 wrote: Incidentally Is there a reason there is so many of them, instead of just one channel with all the videos on? Yes. If one channels gets banned due to copyrights, at least other channels will remain. So better have stuff divided on multiple channels, so I don't have to upload 50000 videos again. Also I hate how YouTube bulk upload sucks these days. Years ago you could upload up to 50 clips simultanously and it worked perfectly. Nowadays you have to publish them individually. Maybe in the future I will upload my collection on Archive.org. I also hope there's a full backup of DarcyF1. If that site goes down...it's a catastrophe. 
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| Author: | webbsy [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
JJ wrote: Yeah, those TBK.FAMEFLAME.DK channels are all mine. But I have kept the original filenames, so they are not always easily to be found, and even YouTube algorithm can't find them if they are named like 2001_f1_unknown_montecarlo.asf or IRV_MON_02.mpeg. And like you said, YouTube emphasizes new videos and Formula 1's official channel in the search, so if you have "Crash" and "Monaco" as two of the keywords, Mick's crash and 2022 Race Highlight will be among the top 10 results. Do you have Michael Schumachers practice crashes at Imola in 1992 or 1995? The 1992 one he dropped it on the exit of Tosa and I believe the 95 one was in the same spot but the wheel and suspension actually came off and hit him in the helmet. I have searched forever for these but haven't been able to find them. I did come across this gem though. The warm up for Imola 95. It would have been red flagged for sure nowdays. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
webbsy wrote: Do you have Michael Schumachers practice crashes at Imola in 1992 or 1995? The 1992 one he dropped it on the exit of Tosa and I believe the 95 one was in the same spot but the wheel and suspension actually came off and hit him in the helmet. Never heard of those incidents. What's your source for them? I don't know if any channel had FP coverage in 1995. There's some practice footage from Eurosport from 1992, but since there's no video, maybe they didn't show that particular session. Again, I wish I could dig FOM's archive. But given that pre-2007 broadcasts were done by local TV channels, it's unlikely those practice session tapes exist anymore. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
JJ wrote: webbsy wrote: Do you have Michael Schumachers practice crashes at Imola in 1992 or 1995? The 1992 one he dropped it on the exit of Tosa and I believe the 95 one was in the same spot but the wheel and suspension actually came off and hit him in the helmet. Never heard of those incidents. What's your source for them? I don't know if any channel had FP coverage in 1995. There's some practice footage from Eurosport from 1992, but since there's no video, maybe they didn't show that particular session. Again, I wish I could dig FOM's archive. But given that pre-2007 broadcasts were done by local TV channels, it's unlikely those practice session tapes exist anymore. Eurosport had FP coverage until '96 I think. Don't know if it was for every session as they only had the one channel back then. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
Gaara wrote: Eurosport had FP coverage until '96 I think. Don't know if it was for every session as they only had the one channel back then. In 1996 at least selected rounds must have had full coverage, as there exist torrents for FP1 through FP4 for 1996 season. But none for 1995. So I think they only showed highlights before the qualifying sessions, as well as in 1994. I'm no expert of course, since I didn't watch F1 back then. |
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| Author: | Soul Reaver [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
If there's a classic Monaco crash in my memory, is this one, with this footage: Ralf, 2003 |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:05 pm ] |
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that's 2005. Unless he crashed the same way driving a red Williams |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
One of the few interesting things to happen in single lap qualifying too |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
other good thing about it was when a driver conked out and managed to screw the next driver attempt. On that cascade many slower cars managed to start ahead better than expected |
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| Author: | gd49 [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
codename_47 wrote: One of the few interesting things to happen in single lap qualifying too I liked seeing just how bad the Minardis were - in a normal quali session you didn't see them at allSent from my CPH2005 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
codename_47 wrote: One of the few interesting things to happen in single lap qualifying too what about Massa trying to do a lap on dries when it was a moonsoon |
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| Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
codename_47 wrote: One of the few interesting things to happen in single lap qualifying too Am I the only person who really loved this format  Understand it wasn't great for people at the track because of limited cars on track, but I loved the spectacle. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
JJ wrote: webbsy wrote: Do you have Michael Schumachers practice crashes at Imola in 1992 or 1995? The 1992 one he dropped it on the exit of Tosa and I believe the 95 one was in the same spot but the wheel and suspension actually came off and hit him in the helmet. Never heard of those incidents. What's your source for them? I don't know if any channel had FP coverage in 1995. There's some practice footage from Eurosport from 1992, but since there's no video, maybe they didn't show that particular session. Again, I wish I could dig FOM's archive. But given that pre-2007 broadcasts were done by local TV channels, it's unlikely those practice session tapes exist anymore. After years of searching I finally found the 1995 Schumacher crash @3:20. And it was on a bloody BBC race recap with Murray Walker! And the 1992 crash was on some old crash comp video that had the old school Eurosport graphics 'Friday Practice Michael Schumacher' as he dropped it into the wall on the exit of Tosa. But I finally found one of them. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
Oh, that crash at Variante Alta was in DarcyF1 (driver incorrectly named as Herbert) https://www.darcyf1.com/download.php?z=80772 
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
That Schumacher 1995 crash is very famous but you guys confused me. It's not at Variante Alta and not at Tosa, it's at Piratella, the fast left hander before Acque Minerali  @  I think in this era it would work better. Back then, the worst that could happen to a top team is starting 3rd or 4th, and they had enough laptime gap in reserve so they just took it relatively safe. And refuelling strategy, etc.. to help in the race. Nowadays, it would be a cut-throat exercise where 0.4s means starting mid-pack around very competitive drivers and killing your week-end. It would be worth trying again. Say at the same week-end as a Sprint Race, so that the inevitable outrage it will cause remains limited in time and drowned into the pre-existing Sprint race whining. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022 |
single lap qualifying is one of my favorites either, mostly because you have only one chance plus, it doesn't have that idiocy of drivers going slowly before a fast lap |
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