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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:21 am 
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Gaara wrote:
Grosjean has to go. Simple as.


Eric Bouiller is Grosjean's manager. Not so simple!

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phil1993 wrote:
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Herbert thinks Lotus should get rid of Grosjean.


Well 50% start accident ratio is monumentally bad. That's half the races he's thrown away points. That's on par with Maldonado.


It's worse. Maldonado usually makes silly minor contact, or crashes by himself. Grosjean's just been downright erratic and dangerous.


Agreed.

And worse, he's a ginger.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:23 am 
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He's been fast, so I'd probably give him another year, but then again I don't have to pay the repair bill nor do I have to worry about the lives of the other drivers (FIA).


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:24 am 
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phil1993 wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Grosjean has to go. Simple as.


Eric Bouiller is Grosjean's manager. Not so simple!


It is simple. Strip his Superlicense.

Ide got canned for much less.

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That's a bizarre reason for suddenly going faster by Lewis

"I had understeer but then on lap twenty-something I had a thud and suddenly the car had grip"

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RtN wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Grosjean has to go. Simple as.


Eric Bouiller is Grosjean's manager. Not so simple!


It is simple. Strip his Superlicense.

Ide got canned for much less.


He was slow and only took out Albers. He was actually much safer then Grosjean.


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Grosjean looked very sad.

Webber: "Maybe we have two separate starts, one for him and one for us"

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Grosjean, can't avoid other cars but can avoid questions...


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I'm happy to see Grosjean has learned a lot from his ban.


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I believe Vettel's race was a Grand Chelem too.

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I think it's almost like Torres last year. The longer he went without a goal, the more he tried to get a goal and it appeared that almost became harder for him to score or Hamilton/Massa last year as well.


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Actually, everyone makes errors. I think Grosjean knows what he did and he will learn from it.
He is not a complete race driver yet, but hey, it is his first season.
He will need a proper practice suited for him, but there is no need to have bashing from everyone, which makes him doing even more errors.


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Well Grosjean is good in qualy so maybe one of these times he can put it on pole and therefore have nobody to hit :p


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acopip wrote:
Actually, everyone makes errors. I think Grosjean knows what he did and he will learn from it.
He is not a complete race driver yet, but hey, it is his first season.
He will need a proper practice suited for him, but there is no need to have bashing from everyone, which makes him doing even more errors.

Yeah, let's not complain about a driver who ruins not only his own, but also lots of other drivers races every other start he makes.

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So Grosjean's victims:
- Schumacher
- Webber
- Perez (x2)
- Kobayashi
- Hamilton
- Alonso
- Maldonado

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BrainPain wrote:
acopip wrote:
Actually, everyone makes errors. I think Grosjean knows what he did and he will learn from it.
He is not a complete race driver yet, but hey, it is his first season.
He will need a proper practice suited for him, but there is no need to have bashing from everyone, which makes him doing even more errors.

Yeah, let's not complain about a driver who ruins not only his own, but also lots of other drivers races every other start he makes.


And he's had a full season to learn from his mistakes.


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acopip wrote:
Actually, everyone makes errors. I think Grosjean knows what he did and he will learn from it.
He is not a complete race driver yet, but hey, it is his first season.
He will need a proper practice suited for him, but there is no need to have bashing from everyone, which makes him doing even more errors.



Seriously?

Sure, he's fast. But more than 50% of his GP starts results of lap 1 crash. When you reach F1, you're not a nOOb at driving in competition. You started lot of races before in others categories. And no driver in F1 history got a worse rate at start.

And I presume that his ability to avoid questions and avoid saying he's the one to blame will not help being a complete racing driver.

No, I think his history in F1 is really in danger!


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What rellay annoys me is that Grosjean causes a mess again in the first corner and the only penalty he receives is a 10 second stop/go. He was already dead last after a frontwing change so a good points finish was out of reach anyway. So therefore you could say about that penalty "who cares!?". So in the end that means there will be no consequences or a penalty for the next race, he will probably start in the first rows again and crash out another potential championship contender. Michael Schumacher however received a +10 for the race in Suzuka. He obviously made a mistake in Singapore, destroyed this and with the consequence that the next race is destroyed as well.
These pathetic penalties just ruin the racing.


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The whole point is that karting, GP3, GP2, whatever is where you should make silly errors and learn from them, not F1.

Hell, even Jaime Alguersuari - a 19 y.o with no F1 experience - wasn't dangerous.

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If Grosjean gets fired and has to leave F1, I just hope he will not join the Indycar. Indy 500 would be ... Holyshit!


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