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Jules Bianchi 1989 - 2015. RIP
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Author:  Gaara [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:13 pm ]
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http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1044 ... chi-family

Author:  micha [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:24 pm ]
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Still critical and still not able to move him. I'm fearing they're holding on to long gone hope.

Author:  Ian-S [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:28 pm ]
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At least they're being open about it.

Author:  Mattzel89 [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:57 pm ]
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Jules Bianchi is out of his artificial coma but remains unconscious and his condition 'critical' seven weeks after his accident in Suzuka

Author:  karaokequeen3 [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:16 pm ]
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"breathing unaided" - good news, but not out of the woods yet.

Author:  Tobias [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:37 pm ]
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good news. Apparently he will be repatriated as well.

Author:  Omega [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:51 pm ]
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yes, he is in Nice already

Author:  stimaro [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:26 pm ]
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Statement from the Bianchi Family | 19 November
Nice, France
Wednesday 19 November 2014
16.30hrs CET
The parents of Jules Bianchi, Philippe and Christine, would like to provide the following information regarding Jules’ medical care, by way of an update to the media and his fans.

"Almost seven weeks after Jules’ accident at Suzuka Circuit, and following a challenging period of neurological intensive care, we are able to announce that Jules has made an important step.

Jules is no longer in the artificial coma in which he was placed shortly after the accident, however he is still unconscious. He is breathing unaided and his vital signs are stable, but his condition is still classified as ‘critical’. His treatment now enters a new phase concerned with the improvement of his brain function.

Jules’ neurological condition remains stable. Although the situation continues to be serious, and may remain so, it was decided that Jules was sufficiently stable to be repatriated to his native France. We are relieved, therefore, to confirm that Jules was transferred aeromedically last night from the Mie Prefectural General Medical Center in Yokkaichi, Japan, to Le Centre Hospitalier Universitaire de Nice (CHU), where he arrived just a short time ago. Jules is now in the intensive care unit of Professors Raucoules and Ichai, where his care will also be monitored by Professor Paquis, Head of Neurosurgery Service.

We are thankful that the next phase of Jules’ treatment can continue close to home, where he can be surrounded and supported by his wider family and friends. We have nothing but praise for the outstanding care provided by the Mie Prefectural General Medical Center since the accident. We owe the medical staff there an enormous debt of gratitude for everything they have done for Jules, and also for our family, during what is a very difficult time for us. In particular, we would like to extend our thanks to Doctors Kamei and Yamamichi, and also to Mr Ogura, all part of the team of personnel caring for Jules in Japan.”

Notes to Editors:
At this stage there are no plans for any media interviews, therefore the family kindly asks for the continued support of the media by requesting that they do not attend the hospital. It is important to the family that the rest of the hospital be allowed to function normally and that respect is shown for the other patients, their families and the hospital staff.

In line with the family’s commitment to the media since the time of Jules’ accident, all information will be issued unilaterally via press releases. The family remains committed to providing continued updates when appropriate.

Author:  Fabs [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:00 pm ]
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There's a long patient road ahead, fingers crossed it evolves positively.

Stay strong Jules!

Author:  StefMeister [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:09 pm ]
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The FIA have released there report looking into Bianchi's accident:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/12/03/f ... -findings/
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On lap 43 of the Japanese GP, Jules Bianchi lost control of his Marussia in turn seven, and struck a mobile crane that was recovering Adrian Sutil’s Sauber, which had crashed the lap before. Bianchi suffered life-threatening injuries to his head, and was evacuated to hospital by ambulance.

The weather conditions at the time were rain and a deteriorating track condition, and the section of the track where the accident occurred was subject to double yellow flags, due to Sutil’s crash.

A review of all the evidence and other information about the events leading up to Bianchi’s accident has been carried out by the 10-man Accident Panel, appointed by the FIA. The Panel has issued a 396-page report on their findings with recommendations for improvements, many relevant to all of motorsport. This has been presented to the FIA World Motorsport Council.

Conclusions:

The review of the events leading up to Bianchi’s accident indicate that a number of key issues occurred, which may have contributed to the accident, though none alone caused it:

1. The semi-dry racing line at T7 was abruptly narrowed by water draining onto the track and flowing downhill along it. Both Sutil, and Bianchi one lap later, lost control at this point in T7.

2. Sutil’s car was in the process of being recovered by mobile crane when Bianchi approached Sectors 7 and 8, which include the part of T7 where the recovery was taking place. Sectors 7 and 8 were subject to double yellow flags.

3. Bianchi did not slow sufficiently to avoid losing control at the same point on the track as Sutil.

4. If drivers adhere to the requirements of double yellow flags, as set out in Appendix H, Art. 2.4.5.1.b, then neither competitors nor officials should be put in immediate or physical danger.

5. The actions taken following Sutil’s accident were consistent with the regulations, and their interpretation following 384 incidents in the preceding eight years. Without the benefit of hindsight, there is no apparent reason why the Safety Car should have been deployed either before or after Sutil’s accident.

6. Bianchi over-controlled the oversteering car, such that he left the track earlier than Sutil, and headed towards a point “up-stream” along the barrier. Unfortunately, the mobile crane was in front of this part of the barrier, and he struck and under-ran the rear of it at high speed.

7. During the 2 seconds Bianchi’s car was leaving the track and traversing the run-off area, he applied both throttle and brake together, using both feet. The FailSafe algorithm is designed to over-ride the throttle and cut the engine, but was inhibited by the Torque Coordinator, which controls the rear Brake-by-Wire system. Bianchi’s Marussia has a unique design of BBW, which proved to be incompatible with the FailSafe settings.

8. The fact that the FailSafe did not disqualify the engine torque requested by the driver may have affected the impact velocity; it has not been possible to reliably quantify this. However, it may be that Bianchi was distracted by what was happening and the fact that his front wheels had locked, and been unable to steer the car such that it missed the crane.

9. Bianchi’s helmet struck the sloping underside of the crane. The magnitude of the blow and the glancing nature of it caused massive head deceleration and angular acceleration, leading to his severe injuries.

10. All rescue and medical procedures were followed, and their expediency are considered to have contributed significantly to the saving of Bianchi’s life.

11. It is not feasible to mitigate the injuries Bianchi suffered by either enclosing the driver’s cockpit, or fitting skirts to the crane. Neither approach is practical due to the very large forces involved in the accident between a 700kg car striking a 6500kg crane at a speed of 126kph. There is simply insufficient impact structure on a F1 car to absorb the energy of such an impact without either destroying the driver’s survival cell, or generating non-survivable decelerations.

It is considered fundamentally wrong to try and make an impact between a racing car and a large and heavy vehicle survivable. It is imperative to prevent a car ever hitting the crane and/or the marshals working near it.

Recommendations:

A number of recommendations for improvements have been proposed, relevant in many cases to all of motorsport. They include the following:

1. A new regulation for double yellow flags:

Proposed new Appendix H Article (possibly under 2.4.5.1 b):

The Clerk of the Course will impose a speed limit in any section of track where double yellow flags are being displayed.

It is proposed that a Working Group, made up of FIA Race Directors and Stewards should meet and draw up detailed regulations and guidelines for the application of this new regulation, in time to apply it in 2015 across international circuit racing.

2. Safety critical software:

A review of safety critical software and measures to check its integrity will take place.

3. Track drainage:

Guidelines on circuit drainage will be reviewed, to include drainage off access roads.

4. 4-hour Rule:

Article 5.3 of the F1 Sporting Regulations states that:

However, should the race be suspended (see Article 41) the length of the suspension will be added to this period up to a maximum total race time of four hours.

It is proposed that a regulation or guideline be established such that the Start time of an event shall not be less than 4 hours before either sunset or dusk, except in the case of night races.

It is also recommended that the F1 Calendar is reviewed in order to avoid, where possible, races taking place during local rainy seasons.

5. Super Licence

It is proposed that drivers acquiring a Super Licence for the first time should undertake a course to familiarise themselves with the procedures used by F1 in running and ensuring the safety of an event.

It is also proposed that new licence holders pass a test to ensure that they are familiar with all the relevant regulations.

6. F1 risk review

Consideration will be given to a review of F1 risk, in order to ascertain whether there are any significant holes in the safety defences, such that an unforeseen combination of circumstances could result in a serious accident.

7. Tyres

It is part of the challenge of a racing driver to drive his car as fast as possible given the track conditions combined with the characteristics of his tyres. Although the characteristics of the wet weather tyres provided by Pirelli did not influence Bianchi’s accident or its outcome in any significant way, it is recommended that provision is made for the tyre supplier to develop and adequately test wet weather tyres between each F1 season, such that it is able to supply the latest developments to the first event.

Author:  JJ [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:36 pm ]
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Excellent suggestions, and it's not surprising most of them have been discussed here. Wonder if the 4-hour-limit till sunset means return of earlier race time for Melbourne, Sepang and Suzuka (or they being replaced by Qatar/Baku/Bankok night races).

Still no official footage about the accident? I doubt the season review will contain anything. Perhaps in 2020 it's published as a part of some F1-documentary.

Author:  StefMeister [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:47 pm ]
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JJ wrote:
Still no official footage about the accident? I doubt the season review will contain anything. Perhaps in 2020 it's published as a part of some F1-documentary.
Given the seriousness of the accident & Jules injuries I doubt FOM will release any footage they have.

There's an Ex-FOM guy who post's on F1fanatic at times who said at the time that its FOM policy to not show replays on a live broadcast until they get the word that drivers involved are OK & that if a driver isn't & nothing is shown on the live broadcast then they won't even think about releasing footage publicly until any drivers involved are awake & out of danger.


My guess for the review is that they will do what they did back in 1994 & maybe show the lead-up to the accident but not show the actual impact or aftermath.

Author:  StefMeister [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:16 am ]
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Gary Hartstein isn't impressed with the report it seems:
https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2014/ ... ion-panel/

Author:  Coldtyre [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:47 pm ]
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Regarding the failsafe system, I'm still confused:

- When they say Bianchi pressed both pedals, did he do it on purpose thinking it would cut the engine off, or was it just panic/distraction (understandably)?

- If this is considered a mandatory/major safety feature for these cars (imagine an unconscious driver ala Massa 2009...), how come Marussia could get away with not having it? Did the FIA know about this or was it only discovered after Jules' accident? Will the team be under scrutiny for this?

Author:  kals [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:41 pm ]
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I find the summary of the report and the "suggestions" pathetic, bordering on the disgusting. Nothing in the report does anything but blame Bianchi and Marussia, and deflect attention or culpability away from FIA / stewards of the Japanese GP.

And as for the "suggestions", there is not ONE new idea that could potentially protect the driver and / or the marshalls from harm... i.e... skirts on the crane.

What a load of fucking bullshit.

Author:  Tobias [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:21 pm ]
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the report was never going to please everyone. Opinions very much differ. It's a freak accident and it's never going to happen again.

Author:  kals [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:39 pm ]
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If I were the Bianchi family, I'd be asking my lawyer to request a copy of the full report from the FIA. There are grounds for pursuing action against the FIA, firstly on the personal side for defamation of character but also the stewards not mitigating the risk of further complications to Jules' health and injuries by not following their own rules and regulations (per Hartstein's comments), but secondly from a wider reaching perspective. The FIA has shown in the report that it has not learnt anything from the incident and has failed to act accordingly by setting out ways safeguard competitors and trackside workers.

Under Max Mosley in 1994 there were immediate actions put into place following the tragedies of Imola. Throughout the following 20 years there has been occasion after occasion where the governing body has instigated procedures that has better protected competitors and workers, yet it has not done so in this case. I suspect because if FIA did then there would be an admission of culpability in what transpired at Suzuka.

Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:16 pm ]
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I'm not really sure who else can take the majority of the blame?

I believe the Safety Car should have been called out if a crane is going to be on the outside of the corner. Once all the cars are lined up/going considerably slower, then the crane can enter the circuit. But the report has a valid point - If the drivers ever obeyed waved yellows correctly, they should be going far slower anyway. Slow down and be prepared to stop, right? When does anyone ever take notice of that? How can lifting for a split second and making sure you don't set your fastest sector be considered enough? It's not. I don't like the idea of blaming somebody who is in a critical condition, but if he had obeyed the yellow flags to the law, he would not be in the position he is now.

Yes, there are other factors - such as bringing out a SC, or not starting the race so late, but I don't think either of those are the main reason for the accident.

I don't understand any fault with Pirelli either. They have an adequate wet tyre. Some drivers made the sensible decision to go onto the wet tyre. Others stayed out on the intermediate and crashed. I'm sure Pirelli already adequately develop their wet tyres (not that the FIA allow them to race in those conditions much).

Agree that protection on any cranes would be a good thing.

Author:  kals [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:27 pm ]
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The point I am making isn't about apportioning blame for the spin which lead to the accident, there's never been any doubt about that. It's the nature of motorsport. Drivers make mistakes. Drivers will push the limits of the regulations. The cause of my own disgust is that the summary of the report essentially washes FIA's hands of culpability from the moment Bianchi spun. That's unacceptable.

Yes freak accidents happen and it's almost impossible to prevent against them, but what you should do is attempt to learn from them. FIA has spectacularly failed to do so in this case.

Author:  gkmotorsport [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:42 pm ]
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I really don't understand why they dismissed the skirts on cranes idea as impossible - didn't they do exactly this in the USA?

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