phil1993 wrote:
With the way 2012 is going, $10 on Schumacher putting someone in the harbour.
Himself.
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| Author: | iks [ Mon May 14, 2012 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
phil1993 wrote: With the way 2012 is going, $10 on Schumacher putting someone in the harbour. Himself.
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon May 14, 2012 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
First post edited with relevant info |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Mon May 14, 2012 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
A brazilian site is reporting that Mika Salo told in an interview that Bottas might replace Senna at Williams still in 2012, any news about that guys? That's really not the kind of stuff you wanna hear before you go to a place like Monaco, Bruno will have a lot of work now, the pressure over his shoulders after Maldonado win will be huge. |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon May 14, 2012 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
There is a report on Crash.net saying Senna is under pressure, but it refers to no reliable sources and mentions the link between Bottas and Williams is really from 2013 onwards. The article also refers to Senna's qualifying performances as the problem, ignoring his two points scoring finishes. Pure bull crap at this stage. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Mon May 14, 2012 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
kals wrote: There is a report on Crash.net saying Senna is under pressure, but it refers to no reliable sources and mentions the link between Bottas and Williams is really from 2013 onwards. The article also refers to Senna's qualifying performances as the problem, ignoring his two points scoring finishes. Pure bull crap at this stage. Yeah, that's exactly my fear about brazilian sites, they are not to reliable, to be honest the brazilian press is really complicated, the ammount of rumors that appears is unbeliveable. And I really don't think its the case right now, Senna has done some good races, his results at Malaysia and China, and the way he came passing everybody at Malaysia after the bad start, was fantastic! Of course he needs to improve his qualifying pace, but we have to be patient with him, he has to let Bottas drive in all non-street circuits, he started his career very lately, his first year in F1 was in a very weak Hispania and last year he had only a few races in Lotus, he lacks the driving time, I believe he will improve a lot during this year, but the biggest problem is that many people still want to compare him to Ayrton, and that's too unfair to Bruno and puts over himself some expectations he can never fulfill.
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| Author: | acopip [ Mon May 14, 2012 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
As the first 7 teams are nearly equal (maybe the difference between them is just 0,3-0,8 seconds a lap) the drivers and the track will make the difference. I remember that Kimi and Alonso were good at Monaco. Maldonado of course as well, he had a great drive in last year's race. Another fact is that most of the races since 2004 have been won from the pole. McLaren was good at this track in the past years. I won't count RB as they had the best car for 2010 and 2011. So I think the win is going to be decided between Maldonado, McLaren, Kimi and Alonso. But we can't guess anything... But imagine a 6th winner from another different car (Lotus likely)... wouldn't that be great? So, go Kimi!! |
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| Author: | Brooney [ Mon May 14, 2012 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
Lucasjeha wrote: Rubmifer wrote: http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN Rain?  Actually the race will be in May 27th weekend, not May 20th. But hey, some rain would be nice, 1997 was a great race! Last years race was good too, looked like it would compete with the Senna v Mansell end, but with 3 champions instead. It was just unfortunate with the red flag. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon May 14, 2012 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
Lucasjeha wrote: A brazilian site is reporting that Mika Salo told in an interview that Bottas might replace Senna at Williams still in 2012, any news about that guys? That's really not the kind of stuff you wanna hear before you go to a place like Monaco, Bruno will have a lot of work now, the pressure over his shoulders after Maldonado win will be huge. Mika Salo has constantly been joking with Bottas in Finnish TV by asking him "isn't it right you'll drive in a race this year?" "I heard Williams has made a contract with you as a race driver?" and such, so do not take Salo and his stories seriously. |
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| Author: | EAS [ Tue May 15, 2012 1:51 am ] |
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone took sarcasm as a serious story and caused hard because of that. Very few guys here manage to look professionals. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
JJ wrote: Lucasjeha wrote: A brazilian site is reporting that Mika Salo told in an interview that Bottas might replace Senna at Williams still in 2012, any news about that guys? That's really not the kind of stuff you wanna hear before you go to a place like Monaco, Bruno will have a lot of work now, the pressure over his shoulders after Maldonado win will be huge. Mika Salo has constantly been joking with Bottas in Finnish TV by asking him "isn't it right you'll drive in a race this year?" "I heard Williams has made a contract with you as a race driver?" and such, so do not take Salo and his stories seriously. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:11 am ] |
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As I did that in the last race and it seems you guys liked it, here it is again, the championship standings as it would be if we were in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 system... Drivers Standings 01 - Sebastian VETTEL - 19 Pts 02 - Fernando ALONSO - 18 Pts 03 - Jenson BUTTON - 16 Pts 04 - Nico ROSBERG - 12 Pts 05 - Kimi RAIKKONEN - 12 Pts 06 - Lewis HAMILTON - 12 Pts 07 - Mark WEBBER - 12 Pts 08 - Pastor MALDONADO - 10 Pts 09 - Romain GROSJEAN - 08 Pts 10 - Sergio PEREZ - 06 Pts 11 - Kamui KOBAYASHI - 03 Pts 12 - Bruno SENNA - 01 Pt 13 - Paul DI RESTA - 01 Pt Constructors Standings 01 - Red Bull - 31 Pts 02 - McLaren - 28 Pts 03 - Lotus - 20 Pts 04 - Ferrari - 18 Pts 05 - Mercedes - 12 Pts 06 - Williams - 11 Pts 07 - Sauber - 09 Pts 08 - Force India - 01 Pt With this old system, the difference from the 1st to the 8th would be only 9 points! |
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| Author: | Fermani2 [ Tue May 15, 2012 12:41 pm ] |
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Amazing, after 2 races nobody above 20 points (with the old counting), that's kind of special. |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Tue May 15, 2012 2:47 pm ] |
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Massa's last race at Ferrari? |
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| Author: | Scirocco [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:00 pm ] |
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Hope Senna gets a full season. It's only really his first full season in a proper car. Hes in a new team against Pastor who is really at home there now so it's not easy for him. I think hes done pretty well so far. He will only get better as well. The Williams boys will be strong at Monaco. |
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| Author: | Антон [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:13 pm ] |
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Tobias wrote: Massa's last race at Ferrari? http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99622 |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:02 pm ] |
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Massa in the wall during QLF. |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:05 pm ] |
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Fabs wrote: Massa in the wall during QLF. Or in the race. Bruno Senna is another one who needs to get his act together or he might be replaced. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
I don't get this Senna might be replaced business. I really don't. This is his first proper chance and he had a thoroughly shit weekend in Spain (albeit compounded by the fact he was hit by Granddad Schumacher) while his team mate played a blinder. Okay, properly crap weekend. But he did better than Pastor in Malaysia and China, while the team was nowhere in Bahrain. His qualifying speed needs upping, but he's still learning. If it's still like this come Brazil then fine. Williams's financial situation won't be quite as in the shitter, so they can afford to put BOTTAS in the car for 2013. But 5 races in to 2012? Please, give it a rest. There's a modern obsession about driver changes as soon as someone has a terrible weekend. Felipe's situation is different because he's been gradually getting worse since his comeback. |
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
phil1993 wrote: I don't get this Senna might be replaced business. I really don't. This is his first proper chance and he had a thoroughly shit weekend in Spain (albeit compounded by the fact he was hit by Granddad Schumacher) while his team mate played a blinder. Okay, properly crap weekend. But he did better than Pastor in Malaysia and China, while the team was nowhere in Bahrain. His qualifying speed needs upping, but he's still learning. If it's still like this come Brazil then fine. Williams's financial situation won't be quite as in the shitter, so they can afford to put BOTTAS in the car for 2013. But 5 races in to 2012? Please, give it a rest. There's a modern obsession about driver changes as soon as someone has a terrible weekend. Well said. People should cut the crap. |
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| Author: | kals [ Tue May 15, 2012 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2012 |
There is no actual "Senna getting replaced" stuff. It is simply tabloid trash not worthy of discussion. |
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