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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Eddington mains wrote: it'll teach you to read a thread before making a sarcastic comment about "admin screencaps" It wasn't supposed to be sarcastic *slinks off with tail between his legs*
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Shaddix wrote: I want the option "Kimi's Strategist". +1 Also the Lotus pitcrew messed up on the first time, which led Kimi to be stuck behind Webber and Hamilton. The gamble at the end was bad strategical planning. If they would have holded Kimi's 2nd pitstop maybe two more laps, he would have still ended up catching Massa. Now Kimi was stuck behind him and he probably used more of his tyres. Kimi did a brilliant job to get up to second place, but it was a fight against windmills. And that's completely the fault of pitstop mistake and bad strategy after that. |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Renault with Raikkonen seemed very reactive today, whereas as Webber was proactive. |
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| Author: | Eddington mains [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
NVirkkula wrote: Shaddix wrote: I want the option "Kimi's Strategist". +1 Also the Lotus pitcrew messed up on the first time, which led Kimi to be stuck behind Webber and Hamilton. The gamble at the end was bad strategical planning. If they would have holded Kimi's 2nd pitstop maybe two more laps, he would have still ended up catching Massa. Now Kimi was stuck behind him and he probably used more of his tyres. Kimi did a brilliant job to get up to second place, but it was a fight against windmills. And that's completely the fault of pitstop mistake and bad strategy after that. Like i said above.. Vote for the driver who was involved in what was your "Farce" and then write a post qualifying your vote.. simples! |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
I voted for Massa purely because he didn't have the speed and nothing more than an overtaking statistic for all the other drivers around him. As for Kimi's strategy, plus Schumi and Button's wheel changers well, that's part of the sport. |
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| Author: | EAS [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Hard to vote on a proper 'farce' in fact. Most bad performances were due to bad choices on strategy. My vote goes to Ricciardo simply because he stayed a long time behind Kovalainen and finished behind Vergne, who started from the pits. |
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| Author: | Gabriel [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
From what I saw, there wasn't a driver who was completely terrible. Even Massa was somewhat acceptable. I won't vote this week. |
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| Author: | Scorpio [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
After last racing weekend, Sergio's form looked much worse so I vote him. |
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| Author: | iks [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
It was late so I went to sleep right after voting and so I didn't write anything regarding my vote. Button wasn't at fault of course...just his pit crew. 
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| Author: | Neil [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
I've voted for Narain. How he finished so far off the pace is beyond me. 50 seconds behind your team-mate is not a good showing. |
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| Author: | Joe A [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Kimi Raikkonen's strategist. Watching Kimi drop like a rock like that was somewhat painful to watch. |
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| Author: | Jonny [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Poor Kimi. His tyres failed him.
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Can we add "the usual keyboard experts who called Rosberg useless just 2 weeks ago and said he'd never win a race"? |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Here here. Although you could then add "the usual keyboard experts who called Mercedes useless just 2 weeks ago and said they'd never win a race". That would include me. |
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| Author: | Ospi [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Joe A wrote: Kimi Raikkonen's strategist. Watching Kimi drop like a rock like that was somewhat painful to watch. They wouldn't have done it if they knew the tires would hit the cliff when they did now would they? It was a gamble, no one knows exactly when the tyres will last until and they were not far off. It didn't work this time around, but it might have.
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| Author: | RtN [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Not knowing when Kimi's tyres would fall off is not their fault (although they should have been able to make an educated guess), but leaving him out there to crawl his way to 14th was stupid. |
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| Author: | Ospi [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
A stop would have had him finish outside the points anyway, it became a case of damage limitation. |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
It was worth the risk, Raikkonen was only a handful of laps away from a great result. I don't see the problem in the strategy. Some you win some you lose. |
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| Author: | ellis [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
Same risk they gave Vettel and Webber. Webber was on course for 4 stops but managed to cope on 3. Vettel was on course for 3 stops, but coped on 2. Kimi was just unlucky really. It's easy to look at it now and say it was stupid, but the entire grid was only a pit stop apart. So an extra stop would have had them out of the points anyway. |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Farce of the Race - China |
kals wrote: It was worth the risk, Raikkonen was only a handful of laps away from a great result. I don't see the problem in the strategy. Some you win some you lose. Grosjean stopped twice, just like Kimi, IIRC. Considering it and the fact that Romain finished in a good pace and hadn't held a group behind him due totally worn out tyres, it seems Kimi had problems on saving his tyres for a 2 stops strategy and that leaded him to a terrible mid stint which ruined his race. That's a valid groud to vote him as farce of the race. |
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