Schumifan wrote:
Why? 99% of the time the the lead gap is reduced by the safety car. Why shouldn't the leader be able to get that gap back?
I was bothered because Vettel used to do all the time when SC came up and I wanted more fight for the lead
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
now imagine this standing start rule. A SC goes out and we'll have a new start. ok, the cars start but 3 get caught in a crash. new SC and new start and so on until the race ends with no running drivers |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
Yes because every start results in retirements. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
Gaara wrote: Yes because every start results in retirements. I simply love when this kind of thing happens |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
It's ridicilous if this will happen. It's the same when you are 2-0 up with football, but when there is a injured player, you go back to 0-0. |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
bet mark webber's glad he got out before they bring this in |
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| Author: | Echti [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
I can see only one scenerio where a standing restart could make sense and would be welcome by everyone: a start behind the safety car due to rain. Give the drivers a few laps to dry out the racing line a bit and then start the race normally. |
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| Author: | StefMeister [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
No more finger noses next year: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114548 The safety car standing start idea is idiotic. I can just see it causing more problems on the restart laps much like Indycar's double file restarts did. Drivers who have been stuck mid-pack will be more likely to try crazy moves through the 1st corners which could lead to more safety cars & more restarts. Like they say in America, cautions breed cautions. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
standing starts after safety cars are not the way, but somebody should stop that practice of the leader holding up then jump starting and gaining a great gap |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
LucasWheldon wrote: standing starts after safety cars are not the way, but somebody should stop that practice of the leader holding up then jump starting and gaining a great gap Why? 99% of the time the the lead gap is reduced by the safety car. Why shouldn't the leader be able to get that gap back? People seem to forget that the safety car is just that - a safety car. Not a "randomly bunch up the field halfway through the race for shits and giggles" car, which sadly is how most race directors seem to view it these days. |
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| Author: | kals [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
But what about the mechanicals? Having the cars sit on the grid mid race will increase the chances of overheating, clutch issues, etc... |
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| Author: | siggy [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
What's the difference between a safety car and a red flag then? One of those proposals that will never get through..... |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion - RIP Jack Brabham |
Schumifan wrote: Why? 99% of the time the the lead gap is reduced by the safety car. Why shouldn't the leader be able to get that gap back? I was bothered because Vettel used to do all the time when SC came up and I wanted more fight for the lead
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| Author: | Fabs [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
In my whole time of watching f1 I can only remember on instance of a lead change happening off a sc restart and that's brazil 01 Actually tell a lie....the ailing hakkinen caused one in aus 99 didn't he? Overtakes immediately after things have cooled down for 5 or so laps are rare sadly. |
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| Author: | Bleu [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Australia 02 and 06 also come my mind on lead changes. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Indianapolis 2004, Schumacher makes a great move to pass Barrichello after Ralf's crash |
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| Author: | kals [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Bleu wrote: Australia 02 and 06 also come my mind on lead changes. 2002? I thought DC went off under SC conditions? |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
He went off at T15 before the restart, gearbox issues apparently. Montoya then outbraked Schumacher in T1. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
mclaren2008 wrote: He went off at T15 before the restart, gearbox issues apparently. Montoya then outbraked Schumacher in T1. Thanks, was just coming back to edit my post. I watched the highlights and had forgotten Montoya's overtake. |
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| Author: | James B [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Brazil 2003 rolling start when Rubens held up the whole field? |
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