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Author: | BrainPain [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:44 am ] |
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If that really is what the drivers see, then they better start mounting a camera on the nosecone and put a screen on the steering wheel, since the only thing we se is the steering wheel in that video. |
Author: | ellis [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:11 pm ] |
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Scotty wrote: ellis wrote: Scotty wrote: As someone who has driven open wheel racing cars (not Formula 1...yet) I can tell you the point of view is slightly higher than that. Doubt it would be unique to just my FSAE car. Well that's a very driver, seat and car specific thing. Justin Wilsons view is a lot higher than Ant Davidsons. That camera is also mounted OVER one of di Grassis eyes. So it is literally eye level. You'd have to be 4 foot 9 if you're eye level isn't above the steering wheel. Not only that, the cameras angle appears to be to be angled low. When he brakes we practically just get a perfect view of his crotch. It's a bit of an exaggeration when they say "this is what it's like". I will admit, doesn't get much closer. The camera angle looks low because cameras can't adjust angle like the human eye does automatically. When the drivers head moves slightly forward, he won't suddenly be looking at his crotch like the camera will, his eyes will just look up a little without even thinking. But in terms of level, that is literally eye level. The camera is over his eye. |
Author: | Coldtyre [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:30 pm ] |
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I once watched photos taken of a landscape using a lens set to the human eye's focal, but it looked ridiculous compared to what you see in person. Especially, brain post-processing of the low-resolution image given by the retina is a fantastic feature that is still being investigated by science. At this point, not even the best quality photos/videos can render eye vision unfortunately. Now, I absolutely HAVE to get in an F1 cockpit someday. Being about the same height as Di Resta (186cm against 185cm), that should settle the discussion, so if you guys want to fund the experience I'm open to donations ![]() |
Author: | Slam [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
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Scotty wrote: As someone who has driven open wheel racing cars (not Formula 1...yet) I can tell you the point of view is slightly higher than that. Doubt it would be unique to just my FSAE car. Please tell me you haven't just tried to compare the driving position of your formula student car to an F1 car, lol. I would agree that his true sight must be a tiny bit higher, but not much. By looking in the mirrors you can tell this. If it was too far out you'd be seeing mostly sky, or road or whatever. |
Author: | kals [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:47 pm ] |
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So despite being a key part to the spying scandal of 2007, Ferrari have taken the decision to employ Pedro de la Rosa as part of it's development team. Perhaps they should consider offering a role to Mike Coughlan as well. Then they'd have 3 of the main contributors to the scandal on the books. |
Author: | phil1993 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:05 pm ] |
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It requires a log-in, but this is an excellent article by Nigel Roebuck about the use of PR in F1 http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ask_n ... mula-1-pr/ I couldn't agree more. |
Author: | kals [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:23 pm ] |
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Can you not just copy and paste here please Phil? |
Author: | phil1993 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:29 pm ] |
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kals wrote: Can you not just copy and paste here please Phil? Duh, what an idiot I am. Spoiler: |
Author: | kals [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
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Thanks Phil |
Author: | Mika Kimi [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:44 pm ] |
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Thanks, nice read! |
Author: | NVirkkula [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:45 pm ] |
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Thanks Phil! That's a great article by Nigel Roebuck as usual. The fact is that everyone in the (F1) world has to play a part of a politician when ever you have to answer a question that other than your closest people might be listening. Everything is so sterile and watered out that once someone says something that has a spirit in it, people go for the second act, which is gasping and being offended. The third act is obvioulsy the person giving a public apology for his outrageous act. It really sickens me. Thankfully Kimi has never fell in to that format and we don't expect him to play by these rules. Media/People tried to be outraged by what Kimi said to the team radio (or when he was having a shit at Interlagos 2006) but the political correctness act never kicked in, because Kimi didn't start playing by those rules. They don't make T-shirts about what drivers are saying in the press conference! Kimi is the only driver who dares to be himself in front of any media, he couldn't care less about what they say about his comments. And Finnish F1-media has learned to work this way, they don't make the headlines about how outrageous things drivers said. Thanks to this, we get awesome comments from Sebastian Vettel in FINNISH and in english. Vettel dares to be edgy with us as he knows he don't get roadsted afterwards. Vettel actually has this smirk on his face when he's talking for our coverage that he doesn't seem to be having with the other medias. There's a big difference with the tone and content from my point of view. So maybe there's a secret behind the work that different reporters does? Maybe Finnish media has learned to work by Kimi's code and gives that same room for the other drivers too, meaning that our globally unknown reporters don't want to go stepping on toes of the few drivers who can give casual interviews for the small budget coverage. |
Author: | phil1993 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:54 pm ] |
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The thing is, teams make sure their drivers are restrained in order to keep sponsors happy. But the daft thing is, most fans prefer charismatic drivers who speak their mind or have a personality. Having Kimi on board has increased Lotus's fanbase massively - the results on track help of course - but still... I'd rather talk to someone like Kimi than just get PR answers... |
Author: | NVirkkula [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:28 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: The thing is, teams make sure their drivers are restrained in order to keep sponsors happy. But the daft thing is, most fans prefer charismatic drivers who speak their mind or have a personality. Having Kimi on board has increased Lotus's fanbase massively - the results on track help of course - but still... I'd rather talk to someone like Kimi than just get PR answers... And what amuses me the most is that Lotus got lots of more sponsor money thanks to media attention focused on Kimi. ![]() |
Author: | Neil [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:37 pm ] |
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And here's an exciting preview of the 2013 Lotus. More abstract angle than the McLaren! ![]() |
Author: | StanV [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:02 pm ] |
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NVirkkula wrote: phil1993 wrote: The thing is, teams make sure their drivers are restrained in order to keep sponsors happy. But the daft thing is, most fans prefer charismatic drivers who speak their mind or have a personality. Having Kimi on board has increased Lotus's fanbase massively - the results on track help of course - but still... I'd rather talk to someone like Kimi than just get PR answers... And what amuses me the most is that Lotus got lots of more sponsor money thanks to media attention focused on Kimi. ![]() There is very interesting academic research on the fact that a lot of big brands & corporations don't really realize this effect of 'controversialness'. F1 teams and sports in general certainly fit in that. |
Author: | ryan86 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:35 pm ] |
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Kimi though came come dangerously close to rude, which isn't a postive characteristic in anyone. |
Author: | Fabs [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:57 pm ] |
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StanV wrote: NVirkkula wrote: phil1993 wrote: The thing is, teams make sure their drivers are restrained in order to keep sponsors happy. But the daft thing is, most fans prefer charismatic drivers who speak their mind or have a personality. Having Kimi on board has increased Lotus's fanbase massively - the results on track help of course - but still... I'd rather talk to someone like Kimi than just get PR answers... And what amuses me the most is that Lotus got lots of more sponsor money thanks to media attention focused on Kimi. ![]() There is very interesting academic research on the fact that a lot of big brands & corporations don't really realize this effect of 'controversialness'. F1 teams and sports in general certainly fit in that. That was one of the subjects for the thesis this year in my Master, I didn't get it though ![]() |
Author: | NVirkkula [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:07 pm ] |
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Once big sponsors "get" this effect of 'controversialness' then we all will get part of "professional wrestling" into our motorsports. |
Author: | codename_47 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:07 pm ] |
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Can't we just get the dutch TV reporters to run all the F1 media? Remember the Paul Stoddart interview, as he starts self-censoring himself they remind him you CAN swear on Dutch television and the result was one of the all time classic F1 interviews, one of the only good parts of that shitty race. Any time there's that kind of passion and reality the PR people want to smoosh it down into an offensive, bland nothing of a statement and it's gone on for too long now... |
Author: | Fish88 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:10 pm ] |
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codename_47 wrote: Can't we just get the dutch TV reporters to run all the F1 media? Remember the Paul Stoddart interview, as he starts self-censoring himself they remind him you CAN swear on Dutch television and the result was one of the all time classic F1 interviews, one of the only good parts of that shitty race. Any time there's that kind of passion and reality the PR people want to smoosh it down into an offensive, bland nothing of a statement and it's gone on for too long now... Dutch F1 media became pretty shit the last years, but that is more due to budget. Anyway here the interview for the lolz. [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY7IdWpqYXI[/youtubeidiot] |
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