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| Author: | codename_47 [ Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:35 am ] |
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Where's Super Aguri when you need him...
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| Author: | webbsy [ Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:55 am ] |
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I've always taken everything Ron Dennis says with a grain of salt, but his calls about this year have taken the cake and he is looking like a complete idiot. Wasn't this Honda engine supposed to be mega, the chassis fantastic, McLaren in the best shape financially they have ever been and they were gonna surprise people in Austria with their pace? Well, as it turns out, the Honda is an even bigger turd than Renault, the chassis is hardly revolutionary, their lack of on track success is starting to effect them landing sponsors and they have been farcical all year but mostly at Austria. The PR people can jazz it up all they want that this is a test year, the partnership will reap rewards in the future blah blah blah, but this has to rank as one of the most pathetic and farcical efforts by any major established team and supplier in recent memory. We probably have to go back to Ferrari in 1980 or Brabham in 1986 for such a pathetic effort. |
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| Author: | Mika Kimi [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Random F1 Discussion Thread |
FIA: Teams aren't allowed to do a 'fake pitstop', like Mercedes did in Silverstone. In Silverstone the Mercedes crew went out to prepare for a pitstop but then came back in, trying to fool Williams. They did this quite often in the past and I actually liked it, a bit of mind games. However, the FIA was (as usual) was not amused (and want to kill all forms of entertainment). |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:50 pm ] |
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I do have hazy memories of the fia banning the teams from being in pit lane unless their car is on its in lap during the m.s. vs hakkinen era. For safety reasons ie you don't want team personell putting themselves in harms way unless it's absolutely necessary. But then I remember them banning team orders after the aus 98 debacle so it's not like these things usually stick for long 
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| Author: | micha [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Random F1 Discussion Thread |
Mika Kimi wrote: FIA: Teams aren't allowed to do a 'fake pitstop', like Mercedes did in Silverstone. In Silverstone the Mercedes crew went out to prepare for a pitstop but then came back in, trying to fool Williams. They did this quite often in the past and I actually liked it, a bit of mind games. However, the FIA was (as usual) was not amused (and want to kill all forms of entertainment). Typical FIA reaction. It's illegal. Someone does it, warn everybody. Either punish them on the spot or drop the rule. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:59 pm ] |
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So what if the pit crew goes out to fake the other team, let them. Typical FIA bullshit. There's no fuel rigs in the pit lane anymore and the amount of people is far reduced from the past. |
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| Author: | kals [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:13 pm ] |
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mclaren2008 wrote: ...the amount of people is far reduced from the past. Is there? I count 22 people in this pitstop from Melbourne 2013. And in this practice pitstop from testing in 2015 I count 20 people: Maybe there were 24 or 26 people during the refueling F1 pitstop but the current number of people to complete a 2-3 second tyre change still seems too many and isn't that far reduced from the past. |
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| Author: | cookie [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Random F1 Discussion Thread |
They should dod A1GP pitstops. Four guys waiting in the pitbox with a tyre, car stops and the 4 guys run out with the tyre to change it. More exciting than the 1.5 second stops we have now. |
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| Author: | kals [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:41 pm ] |
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That wouldn't work for risk adverse / H&S conscious F1. FIA would be worried that a mechanic might trip over an air hose while running from the pit box. It seems simple, well to me anyway. 2 people per tyre plus a jack operator front and rear, plus a lollipop map if needed. That's 10-11 max. Over 20 is ridiculous. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:02 pm ] |
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kals wrote: That wouldn't work for risk adverse / H&S conscious F1. FIA would be worried that a mechanic might trip over an air hose while running from the pit box. That would probably be the most exciting thing of the race, and we would be treated to 10 replays of it....either that or it wouldn't be caught at all. But the thermal cam would probably show him shitting his dacks which would be new. |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:14 pm ] |
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kals wrote: That wouldn't work for risk adverse / H&S conscious F1. FIA would be worried that a mechanic might trip over an air hose while running from the pit box. ban air guns, use spanners instead |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:35 pm ] |
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kals wrote: something in this video is missing nowadays ah is the noise, just listen to it |
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| Author: | cookie [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:00 pm ] |
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kals wrote: That wouldn't work for risk adverse / H&S conscious F1. FIA would be worried that a mechanic might trip over an air hose while running from the pit box. It seems simple, well to me anyway. 2 people per tyre plus a jack operator front and rear, plus a lollipop map if needed. That's 10-11 max. Over 20 is ridiculous. It will be safer, the car stops in an empty pitbox and then the mechanics run out. Now the car stops in between 20 mechanics. 1 from the driver mistake and they get mowed down. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:34 am ] |
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I must clarify, there are less people standing around in the pit lane during a race, not less people doing the service. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:08 pm ] |
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at least they don't use the lollipop dude for a long time |
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| Author: | amq55 [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:55 pm ] |
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kals wrote: There's at least 5 people that are completely expendable in that video. The two blokes in the middle holding the car, the one on the back with the starter motor, the other jackman behind the rear jack and the guy that's overlooking things near th LF tyre. |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:44 pm ] |
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I've thought for ages that fewer people involved with stops is a no-brainer. It's massively safer, and tbh I think it reflects better on the skill of the mechanics when there are less there and they have to multitask - just look at how quick NASCAR guys can undo five bolts. Oh, and the suggestion about driving into an empty pit box is a good one, too. |
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| Author: | StefMeister [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:04 pm ] |
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FIA have confirmed 21 race schedule for 2016 starting in Melbourne on April 3rd: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-c ... 1-calendar April 3 - Australia April 10 - China April 24 - Bahrain May 1 - Russia May 15 - Spain May 29 - Monaco June 12 - Canada June 26 - Britain July 3 - Austria July 17 - Europe (Baku) July 31 - Germany August 7 - Hungary August 28 - Belgium September 4 - Italy September 18 - Singapore September 25 - Malaysia October 9 - Japan October 23 - USA (Austin) October 30 - Mexico November 13 - Brazil November 27 - Abu Dhabi |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:54 pm ] |
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Malaysia in September 
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:59 pm ] |
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Fabs wrote: Malaysia in September Party like it is 1999 (or was that in October?) |
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