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Author:  Bleu [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Clip The Apex lists 26 overtakes. Not much compared to other races this year, but to earlier Monaco races that's much.
Author:  user [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
phil1993 wrote:
More shameless plugging
http://www.f1zone.net/site/five-star-ve ... naco/7141/

I'm going to write a piece on drivers under pressure this year. So far I've thought of Webber, Massa, Alguersuari & Sutil. Any else?


Quick question, is that site affiliated with that famous ... you know ... illegal ... warez... site? Because the logo is an identical match :D
Author:  phil1993 [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Bleu wrote:
Clip The Apex lists 26 overtakes. Not much compared to other races this year, but to earlier Monaco races that's much.


Does Hamilton's move on Maldonado count :p
Author:  Echti [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Bleu wrote:
Clip The Apex lists 26 overtakes. Not much compared to other races this year, but to earlier Monaco races that's much.


Actually that's quite impressive.
Author:  Fox [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rate the 2011 Monaco Grand Prix
BrainPain wrote:
Peter wrote:
Not enough overtakings for my taste so I gave it a 7.

Yeah, Monaco is famous for overtaking orgies.


:lol: :lol:
Author:  phil1993 [ Mon May 30, 2011 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Just to back up my earlier argument, here's (thanks to someone at Atlas) a frame by frame - Ham/Mal vs Ham/Msc

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Pretty similar. Look how much kerb Maldonado takes trying to block Lewis ;)
Author:  Fox [ Mon May 30, 2011 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
26 overtakes is pretty much for Monaco :D
Author:  Bleu [ Mon May 30, 2011 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
phil1993 wrote:
Bleu wrote:
Clip The Apex lists 26 overtakes. Not much compared to other races this year, but to earlier Monaco races that's much.


Does Hamilton's move on Maldonado count :p


That wasn't counted. However, Hamilton on Petrov was (just before the Petrov/Alguersuari crash) as well as Maldonado on Sutil in the same situation. Maldonado seemed to be clear when Sutil touched the wall with his right rear tyre.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Mon May 30, 2011 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Nice analysis there Phil.

I was angry at Hamilton at first, not so much after watching the onboard.
Still Hamilton's fault by at least 50%, but Maldonado could have been more clever knowing had a clearly faster and overly aggressive Hamilton behind him that he blocked twice on the S/F straight. He was on his way to a wonderful result, had the room to make it safely, but he chose to close the door and hope Hamilton would have backed up by then.
Author:  amq55 [ Mon May 30, 2011 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Perez suffered an 80G impact.
Author:  Regiotap [ Mon May 30, 2011 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
phil1993 wrote:
More shameless plugging
http://www.f1zone.net/site/five-star-ve ... naco/7141/

I'm going to write a piece on drivers under pressure this year. So far I've thought of Webber, Massa, Alguersuari & Sutil. Any else?


I don't think Webber is on pressure at the moment. I think Red Bull is very happy with him this season. Everyone knows Vettel is the better driver, but Webber still scores points. He got bad luck in China and in Monaco with his pitstop. And in Spain the team decided to bring Vettel first in the pits instead of Webber. Else Webber would have won the race, because he would had the oppurtunity to pass Alonso in the free laps with new tyres.

It's a good situation for Red Bull. Vettel is the better driver and takes victories. Webber is driving good and scores a lot of points for the constructor championship.
Author:  Fox [ Mon May 30, 2011 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver of the Race - Monaco
LucasWheldon wrote:
Kobayashi - stormed through the field and managed to escape all the incidents

if the tires didn't had changed top 3 driver would get my vote


Nah he made only one serious overtake.He was just lucky that he hasnt pitted before the SC came out, like Sutil was.
Author:  Ospi [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
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Author:  Memy Selfandi [ Tue May 31, 2011 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rate the 2011 Monaco Grand Prix
if it were not for the petrov injury and red flag i would give 9 or 10. instead, i give 8 for a great race with a potential classic ending unrealized.
Author:  Philthy82 [ Tue May 31, 2011 4:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
coldtyre wrote:
Nice analysis there Phil.

I was angry at Hamilton at first, not so much after watching the onboard.
Still Hamilton's fault by at least 50%, but Maldonado could have been more clever knowing had a clearly faster and overly aggressive Hamilton behind him that he blocked twice on the S/F straight. He was on his way to a wonderful result, had the room to make it safely, but he chose to close the door and hope Hamilton would have backed up by then.


Which is exactly the type of situation that should be considered a racing incident. Stewards on prozac again.
Author:  Juihi [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:10 am ]
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Sup Kimi.......

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Author:  Ospi [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:15 am ]
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Hot
Author:  Fabs [ Tue May 31, 2011 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
buttsechs
Author:  ellis [ Tue May 31, 2011 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
The problem with the camera at Ste Devote is it fore shortens the view. From Hamiltons onboard, he's not even close to being alongside enough to claim a legit pass.

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Maldonado isn't blocking, but if Lewis claims he took too much kerb then someone point him to his qualifying lap. ;)
Author:  phil1993 [ Tue May 31, 2011 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Prix de Monaco 2011
Look further back on the onboard and you can see why he did it - all over Pastor down the 'straight'. Furthermore, Pastor didn't take the racing line through Ste Devote. BUT equally, Lewis should know that he only - just - passed Schumacher and he is a 7 times champion with shot tyres. Pastor's a rookie who was on similarly worn tyres to Lewis.
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